Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted
32 minutes ago, buddha said:

the weird thing is that they said pros were falling for it.  you would figure a professional poker player could sniff something like that out pretty quickly.

I'm not shocked at all.  Bad players are like chum in the water for poker players.  

Posted

Here is the interview with Matt Berkey.  The interview is from 2 years ago, and he said this was 2019 when it happened.  He flat out says the entire game was built around Chauncey Billups.  Paul Pierce also sort of gets mentioned.  

It should start where he is talking about it.  But if it doesn't skip to the 27m15s mark.  

 

Posted

Once again, the money isn't worth the risk.

Remember during the Beasley stuff, I said you can't make enough money manipulating prop bets to make it worth the risk.  Same thing here.

The FBI said the Billups card games made around $7 million.  He made $100 million in his playing career.  He was set to make $4.7 million this year in Portland.  What percent of that $7 million do you think he got?  10% tops?  So he risked all this for $700 thousand?  

  • Like 1
Posted
1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

Once again, the money isn't worth the risk.

Remember during the Beasley stuff, I said you can't make enough money manipulating prop bets to make it worth the risk.  Same thing here.

The FBI said the Billups card games made around $7 million.  He made $100 million in his playing career.  He was set to make $4.7 million this year in Portland.  What percent of that $7 million do you think he got?  10% tops?  So he risked all this for $700 thousand?  

So, is he just incredibly stupid, or is there a whole lot of iceberg under the surface?

Posted

Hold on.  They caught it the day of and pulled him for the rest of the year?  That is interesting because that summer he was traded to Miami.  I wonder if the Heat knew about this.

 

Posted

I don’t think it’s a thrill.  I think it’s a Superman complex that has them believe they can do things that normal people can’t.   If a person truly believes they can never get caught, there is no perceived risk.    

Posted

This is why the whole legal/official gambling and pro sports cross pollination stinks. This stuff doesn’t exist in a vacuum.  There’s many ways to both incur and pay a debt.  I’m glad I am capable of not caring about money. 

  • Like 1
Posted

this stuff went on for years before gambling was legalized in america. 

it goes on all over the world all the time.  and has forever.

every once in a while you get players who make it obvious or someone gets caught and snitches.  but this has little to do with fanduel.

  • Like 1
Posted

Well yeah no **** it went on before. I didn’t suggest otherwise.  My point wasn’t intended to be about these particular incidents.  Im talking about the culture of gambling itself.  why make it easier for people and practically sanction it and promote it?  It’s an impossible goal to eradicate harmful behavior but it should still  something that’s not considered socially acceptable and definitely not part of leagues official business.  It’s disingenuous to heavily promote something for the fans that the participants can’t do. Gambling can an addiction  I see no practical difference between a player who bets through a bookie or through one of the “real” sites.  For any sport. Once they get in that world bad things can happen and it affects the fans perception of the integrity. But who knows. Maybe that doesn’t matter. Maybe they can start bets on whether a game is fixed.  As long as theres money to be made by a corporation and some college kid things he can score then it’s all good.

but believing that there’s still some iron curtain between legalized gambling and the underworld that Chauncey was a part of is like believing that stripper is just doing it to pay for nursing school and would NEVER go further or that the owner isn’t peddling in underage stuff. If it makes you feel better go ahead and believe it. 

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      325
    • Most Online
      704

    Newest Member
    mikej234
    Joined
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...