lordstanley Posted November 8 Author Posted November 8 Rangers are 0-5-1 at MSG, 7-1-1 on the road. Quote
slothfacekilla Posted November 9 Posted November 9 4 hours ago, lordstanley said: Rangers are 0-5-1 at MSG, 7-1-1 on the road. I thought I must had misheard when the broadcast said they were the best road team, weird season for them Quote
1984Echoes Posted November 9 Posted November 9 Going to be an interesting year... Both in chasing the playoffs... And in seeing who comes up from GR and plays for the Wings/ sticks (or not) with the Wings. Quote
lordstanley Posted November 9 Author Posted November 9 Connor Bedard putting up numbers this season. His 9th gives the Hawks an early 1–0 lead over the Wings. Quote
buddha Posted November 9 Posted November 9 if the wings can make the playoffs with this many rookies playing key roles this season, it will really be something. Quote
lordstanley Posted November 9 Author Posted November 9 Wings are trailing 2-1 late in the 2nd so need to take advantage of this 4-minute powerplay. Quote
buddha Posted November 9 Posted November 9 well that was pathetic. they get justifiedly booed off the ice. Quote
buddha Posted November 9 Posted November 9 kane with a great set up for debtincat and he misses the net. danielson with a great set up for finnie and he fans on it. Quote
lordstanley Posted November 9 Author Posted November 9 Bertuzzi makes it 3-1. A blah weekend of Red Wings hockey so far. Quote
1984Echoes Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) 1) We are seriously paying for minor indiscretions this game. 2) Arvid game of his life. 3) Can we get some of that? Postava or Cossa... I don't care. I just wanna "LOOK" at what we have and see where they are... 4) Why can't any Wing (mostly) find the net all of a sudden...? Edited November 9 by 1984Echoes Quote
buddha Posted November 9 Posted November 9 when they have to beat florida or edmonton on the road in march ij order to stay relevant, remember losing to the blackhawks 5-1 at home. following up a 4-1 loss to the rangers. cancels out all the decent wins from the west coast trip. at least danielson is up. gives us something to watch. Quote
buddha Posted November 10 Posted November 10 They took kasper off the top line, kane has been out, and he's hit that slump. put him back with larkin and raymond and i think he's scorong more. the lines were working great last year when kasper was 1LW and copp was 2C. but they ditched that because they think kasper has to be a C. now copp is back to sucking, kasper has "hit a wall", and finnie is getting all the points scoring with larkin/raymond. move kasper up and finnie down to the checking line would be a way to get him started. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted November 10 Posted November 10 (edited) 31 minutes ago, buddha said: They took kasper off the top line, kane has been out, and he's hit that slump. put him back with larkin and raymond and i think he's scorong more. the lines were working great last year when kasper was 1LW and copp was 2C. but they ditched that because they think kasper has to be a C. now copp is back to sucking, kasper has "hit a wall", and finnie is getting all the points scoring with larkin/raymond. move kasper up and finnie down to the checking line would be a way to get him started. It seems in hockey there are faciliators that make things go and players who can excel but only playing with those players. We saw it with Abdelkater and Datsyuk, and now we see with almost every Wing that plays with Larkin. Nothing wrong with having those guys on a team but you have to have enough facilitators to go around, and that is what the wings can not seem to come up with - and that's the big hope for Danielson isn't it? It's more than just having centers ser se - it's that particular skill set in a center and like Larkin it doesn't even need to be a 1st level all star. They want Kasper to be a center but he needs other players to lift him, at this point he isn't/can't lift the others he plays with. Kane has some of that from the wing just because he is such a precision passer. but he's no center. Edited November 10 by gehringer_2 Quote
1984Echoes Posted November 10 Posted November 10 1 hour ago, buddha said: ... move kasper up and finnie down to the checking line would be a way to get him started. Larkin-Raymond-Kasper Danielson-Kane-DeBrincat Compher-Finnie-Appleton Copp-Rasmussen-JVR Quote
buddha Posted November 10 Posted November 10 one reason they struggle is because they dont have enough skilled talent on the team. they have "200 foot guys" who play hard but not a lot of natural goal scorers. raymond, larkin, debrincat....and ancient kane. that's about it. for a team picking in the top 10 for 10 yeaes, that's not great. i dont know enough about the league to compare them to other teams. but it doesnt seem like enough. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted November 11 Posted November 11 (edited) 23 hours ago, buddha said: one reason they struggle is because they dont have enough skilled talent on the team. they have "200 foot guys" who play hard but not a lot of natural goal scorers. raymond, larkin, debrincat....and ancient kane. that's about it. for a team picking in the top 10 for 10 yeaes, that's not great. i dont know enough about the league to compare them to other teams. but it doesnt seem like enough. They aren't built or going to be the Red Wings of old with multiple 80-90 point guys. They aren't going to be the Oilers or Avalanche of today either. They aren't going to beat you with skill and top-end talent alone. Without a true #1 center, allowing Larkin to slide to the second line, I don't think they can become that type of team either. Without one or more 90 point + producers on this team, they won't have the ability to beat you simply on the skill level and scoring ability of their players. And I don't see anywhere they can land a top center or a wing (multiple) capable of putting up 90+ points. Rather, this team has to be built in the vein of St. Louis in 2019, Vegas from the 2023, or the Florida Panthers from the past few years. They are going to need to be a hard forechecking, defensively smart team with great goaltending to back it all up. They're going to need tough, gritty forecheckers who can still score goals, while being a problem to play against by wearing you down over the course of a game. Larkin needs to be for us what Reinhart is for the Panthers. We need Bear, Brandsegg-Nygard, Danielson, and Finne to develop into what Bennett, Marchad, Tkachuk, and Verhaeghe are as forwards. We need Edvinsson, Sandin-Pelika, Sieder, develop into what Ekblad and Forsling are on defense. Last, but certainly not least, one of Augustine or Cossa has to develop into a goalie capable of stealing games on his own like Bobrovsky is as a goalie. Edited November 11 by Mr.TaterSalad Quote
slothfacekilla Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Wings had some moments in the first against the Ducks but I thought they largely looked pretty bad. The Ducks' forecheck is causing a lot of problems for them as their defenders are really taking their time moving the puck out of the zone. They're probably lucky to be tied 0-0 still, Gibson made some good saves. I absolutely loathe having to listen to the Ducks broadcast! Quote
lordstanley Posted November 14 Author Posted November 14 26 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: They're probably lucky to be tied 0-0 still, Gibson made some good saves. Gibson was the strongest Red Wing player on the period's late powerplay. 1-1 now in the 2nd, Seider with the Wings' goal. Quote
lordstanley Posted November 14 Author Posted November 14 Wings lead 3-2 after 2. The Wings have led 3 different times, the latest thank to ASP. Quote
slothfacekilla Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Great to see the Wings going to the net a lot, their goals have largely been due to traffic in the slot. Gibson did not start the third. Might be hurt? Quote
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