Motor City Sonics Posted Friday at 06:07 PM Posted Friday at 06:07 PM 1 hour ago, slothfacekilla said: Gibson used to be really good on some bad Ducks teams so I was hoping he'd be used to a sub-par defense in front of him. I do think he's having a lot of bad puck luck but he also isn't making many big saves and certainly isn't stealing any games. It's a shame he doesn't seem to have a ton left in the tank but I appreciate the swing by the Wings, there weren't many options out there. I turned the game off when they went down 2-0 last night, they looked really bad. But Cossa. Shouldn't he be taking it by now? Shouldn't he be forcing the Wings to bring him up because he's so stellar? Seems like it's taking an awfully long time with him Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted Friday at 06:26 PM Posted Friday at 06:26 PM 16 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: But Cossa. Shouldn't he be taking it by now? Shouldn't he be forcing the Wings to bring him up because he's so stellar? Seems like it's taking an awfully long time with him Jesper Wallstedt was drafted by The Wild in the same draft as Cossa. Wallstedt is already on the NHL roster and has played in 7 games this season so far with a 2.20 GAA and a .926 SV%. Meanwhile, Cossa has played in zero games this year and doesn't look to be getting called up any time soon, if at all this season. I don't know if this is more of an indictment on Yzerman, Cossa, McLellan, their developmental system, or a bit of each. Quote
slothfacekilla Posted Friday at 06:27 PM Posted Friday at 06:27 PM 13 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: But Cossa. Shouldn't he be taking it by now? Shouldn't he be forcing the Wings to bring him up because he's so stellar? Seems like it's taking an awfully long time with him Cossa was up and down at the back half of the last AHL season, so it was tough to give him any sort of guarantee in the NHL this season especially with Talbot being old/an injury risk. Fans especially seem to want the team to make the playoffs so it would have been a pretty volatile tandem with that in mind. Goalies usually take time, I'm not personally worried with his timeline so far especially with him playing very well in Grand Rapids so far this season. Askarov was a better prospect than him and drafted a season earlier, and he's just having his NHL breakout right now. I suspect we'll see Cossa at points this season honestly but I'm personally not concerned he isn't in the NHL at the moment. If he keeps up his play I don't see how they don't give him a look some time this season. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted Friday at 06:30 PM Posted Friday at 06:30 PM 2 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: Cossa was up and down at the back half of the last AHL season, so it was tough to give him any sort of guarantee in the NHL this season especially with Talbot being old/an injury risk. Fans especially seem to want the team to make the playoffs so it would have been a pretty volatile tandem with that in mind. Goalies usually take time, I'm not personally worried with his timeline so far especially with him playing very well in Grand Rapids so far this season. Askarov was a better prospect than him and drafted a season earlier, and he's just having his NHL breakout right now. I suspect we'll see Cossa at points this season honestly but I'm personally not concerned he isn't in the NHL at the moment. If he keeps up his play I don't see how they don't give him a look some time this season. Does it bother you at all as a fan, or make you impatient with Cossa or Yzerman, that Wallstedt is currently on the NHL roster and looking good for The Wild? Wallstedt is a guy Yzerman passed on for Cossa and he was believed to be the more NHL-ready goalie at the time. Quote
slothfacekilla Posted Friday at 06:34 PM Posted Friday at 06:34 PM Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said: Does it bother you at all as a fan, or make you impatient with Cossa or Yzerman, that Wallstedt is currently on the NHL roster and looking good for The Wild? Wallstedt is a guy Yzerman passed on for Cossa and he was believed to be the more NHL-ready goalie at the time. No it does not, before this season Cossa was a better prospect than Wallstedt based on their body of AHL work to date. Wallstedt has largely looked not good before this season from what I've seen. I don't see much value in making sweeping generalizations about drafting or development based on either the past AHL seasons or 7 NHL games this season. Is it possible that Wallstedt ends up being better than Cossa? Ya for sure, and he's looked good so far this season. But goalies are strange and it is 7 whole games. Quote
Hongbit Posted Friday at 07:31 PM Posted Friday at 07:31 PM I know I’m the resident Augustine is the future guy but he’s absolutely on fire at the moment. MSU has taken advantage of the new rules and has built a juggernaut of a team this year. His size is the only thing holding him back as a prospect. Everything he’s doing between the pipes is off the charts. This kid continues to step up his game to every challenge. I wouldn’t put it past him being ready for the NHL at some point next year. Quote
lordstanley Posted Friday at 07:52 PM Author Posted Friday at 07:52 PM One thing I can't fault Yzerman for is trying to fix the goalie position. He has drafted Cossa and Augustine. He has brought in a string of experienced goalies that seemed they could pay off like Bernier, Nedeljkovic, Husso, Lyon, Reimer, Talbot, Gibson. You'd think ONE of them would have turned into a reliable #1 by now. But noooooo. Quote
buddha Posted Friday at 10:21 PM Posted Friday at 10:21 PM 2 hours ago, Hongbit said: I know I’m the resident Augustine is the future guy but he’s absolutely on fire at the moment. MSU has taken advantage of the new rules and has built a juggernaut of a team this year. His size is the only thing holding him back as a prospect. Everything he’s doing between the pipes is off the charts. This kid continues to step up his game to every challenge. I wouldn’t put it past him being ready for the NHL at some point next year. augustine may not sign with detroit... Quote
buddha Posted Friday at 10:21 PM Posted Friday at 10:21 PM as for cossa, one of talbot or gibson will be hurt at some point this year and cossa will have his shot. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Friday at 10:54 PM Posted Friday at 10:54 PM 29 minutes ago, buddha said: as for cossa, one of talbot or gibson will be hurt at some point this year and cossa will have his shot. It's going to be a fine line for Mac to walk. Talbot has been playing well but at 38 you just can't go to that well too often or he will either end up hurt or even just out of gas long before the end of the season. Quote
Hongbit Posted Saturday at 12:52 AM Posted Saturday at 12:52 AM 2 hours ago, buddha said: augustine may not sign with detroit... Doesn’t seem likely at all. The Wings have until August 2027 to sign him. I don’t see him coming back to MSU for yet another year. Where would he play next season? His best option is to sign with the hometown team and start his pro career. Quote
buddha Posted Saturday at 01:51 AM Posted Saturday at 01:51 AM 58 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Doesn’t seem likely at all. The Wings have until August 2027 to sign him. I don’t see him coming back to MSU for yet another year. Where would he play next season? His best option is to sign with the hometown team and start his pro career. he could easily get paid to go back to msu for another season and then become a free agent. Quote
slothfacekilla Posted Saturday at 06:27 PM Posted Saturday at 06:27 PM Finnie has had three great chances in the first here, the CBJ goalie is making great saves Quote
slothfacekilla Posted Saturday at 06:46 PM Posted Saturday at 06:46 PM Absurd embellishment call on Kane just now, these refs are delusional Quote
lordstanley Posted Saturday at 08:38 PM Author Posted Saturday at 08:38 PM Comeback! Wings were down 3-1 to Columbus, have just tied it with 6 minutes left in 3rd Quote
lordstanley Posted Saturday at 08:54 PM Author Posted Saturday at 08:54 PM (edited) DeBrincat! OT winner! Edited Saturday at 09:12 PM by lordstanley Quote
buddha Posted Saturday at 08:56 PM Posted Saturday at 08:56 PM back in first place! is seider a top 10 defenseman in the league? Quote
slothfacekilla Posted Saturday at 08:59 PM Posted Saturday at 08:59 PM 2 minutes ago, buddha said: back in first place! is seider a top 10 defenseman in the league? There are very few players I would swap for him one for one that’s for sure. What a snipe by Cat in ot, wow. That Raymond goal was pretty too. Quote
slothfacekilla Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Thought Bernard Docker looked pretty solid early on this season but god he looks awful now. Him and Hamonic both are having bad games, missing Edvinsson really shows how bad the d depth is. Quote
1984Echoes Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: Thought Bernard Docker looked pretty solid early on this season but god he looks awful now. Him and Hamonic both are having bad games, missing Edvinsson really shows how bad the d depth is. Hamonic is worse than JBD. Right now, and I mean right after this game, I wanna send Hamonic down to GR and call up Holl. Holl was never this (Hamonic) bad... He didn't play well last year... But as a 3rd pair defensive RHD, Holl is good enough. Better than Hamonic. And let JBD work on his game some more... Edited 4 hours ago by 1984Echoes Quote
slothfacekilla Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago They called up Gustaffson so you have to think he gets in for one of these two next game Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Hamonic is worse than JBD. Right now, and I mean right after this game, I wanna send Hamonic down to GR and call up Holl. Holl was never this (Hamonic) bad... He didn't play well last year... But as a 3rd pair defensive RHD, Holl is good enough. Better than Hamonic. And let JBD work on his game some more... I don't much like Hamonic or Holl, but they are down a Dman in Simon so sadly somebody is going to be playing we'd rather not Quote
1984Echoes Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: I don't much like Hamonic or Holl, but they are down a Dman in Simon so sadly somebody is going to be playing we'd rather not Send down Soderblom (what is he doing for the team right now anyways...?) And call up Wallinder. Just a few games to let him get his feet wet and see what the NHL is all about. Until Simon gets back. It'll pay off in the future... IMO. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, 1984Echoes said: Send down Soderblom (what is he doing for the team right now anyways...?) And call up Wallinder. Just a few games to let him get his feet wet and see what the NHL is all about. Until Simon gets back. It'll pay off in the future... IMO. I actually want to see more of Elmer, but we haven't because he went to the IR today - retroactive to the 9th https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/hockey/news/red-wings-elmer-soderblom-lands-on-ir/ Quote
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