11/22/26 8:00PM Pistons @ Bucks

[Tigeraholic1]

Let’s go Ivey!

[Deleterious]

So first have with a full squad? Klintman isn't a rotation player and at this point Sasser shouldn't be. 

[Deleterious]

Kuzma has the money to hire any tattoo artist on earth and his still look like prison tattoo's.

[Deleterious]

Not a big fan of Stewart playing next to Duren. It puts him on the perimeter too much on defense and takes away his best quality, rim protection. So instead of Stewart anchoring the defense you have Duren.

[Hart]

Not super excited to have Ivey back.  In the long run, we definitely have more upside with him.  But hard to mess with the chemistry this team has had this season.  

[Deleterious]

Robinson > Beasley. Shooting is pretty equal but Robinson is better at almost everything else, especially defense. 

[Deleterious]

Why would Doc challenge a turnover in the second quarter? 

That early you only challenge to add/remove points or to take/add a foul to a key player.

[Deleterious]

I know it's preventative, but I always get nervous seeing Stewart with those ice bags on his knees.

[Sports_Freak]

The Pistons are well aware of our recent struggles against the Bucks. They came out looking very determined. The Pistons defense has led to way, that's great to see.

[Sports_Freak]

15 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Why would Doc challenge a turnover in the second quarter? 

That early you only challenge to add/remove points or to take/add a foul to a key player.

Agreed. Maybe he was trying to stop the Piston momentum? Or hoping to give his team momentum?

[Deleterious]

10 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Agreed. Maybe he was trying to stop the Piston momentum? Or hoping to give his team momentum?

That could be it.

[Sports_Freak]

Looking at the schedule, we play the Bucks 2 more times coming up, December 3rd and 6th. Sometimes it's not who you play, it's when you play them.

[Motor City Sonics]

Ivey is badk?   And Harris is healthy?     That means less time for Jenksanity. 

 

This team is deep.  

[Deleterious]

The Pistons schedule is just littered with terrible teams.  Looking ahead its hard to find a game where you think Detroit might lose.

Maybe Orlando?  I don't think they are very good, Banchero will still be out when they play them.

Lakers would probably be the next one.  But you never know when LeBron or Luka will rest.

Then Cleveland would be the next game where you think going in Detroit could lose.

Lakers game is December 28th.  Cleveland game is Jan 4th.   That is something like 13 or 14 games before the Lakers game.  

[Deleterious]

When are they losing? 5 game west coast trip and they will be favored in all 5.

I guess as they advance in the tournament, they will face teams not currently on their schedule.  Those could be good teams.  But other than that its a cakewalk of a schedule.  

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16	Sat, Nov 22, 2025	8:00p			@	Milwaukee Bucks
17	Mon, Nov 24, 2025	7:00p			@	Indiana Pacers
18	Wed, Nov 26, 2025	5:00p			@	Boston Celtics										In-Season Tournament
19	Fri, Nov 28, 2025	7:30p				Orlando Magic										In-Season Tournament
20	Sat, Nov 29, 2025	8:00p			@	Miami Heat
G	Date	Start (ET)				Opponent			Tm	Opp	W	L	Streak	Attend.	LOG	Notes
21	Mon, Dec 1, 2025	7:00p				Atlanta Hawks
22	Wed, Dec 3, 2025	8:00p			@	Milwaukee Bucks
23	Fri, Dec 5, 2025	7:30p				Portland Trail Blazers
24	Sat, Dec 6, 2025	7:30p				Milwaukee Bucks
25	Thu, Dec 18, 2025	8:30p			@	Dallas Mavericks
26	Sat, Dec 20, 2025	7:30p				Charlotte Hornets
27	Mon, Dec 22, 2025	10:00p			@	Portland Trail Blazers
28	Tue, Dec 23, 2025	10:00p			@	Sacramento Kings
29	Fri, Dec 26, 2025	9:30p			@	Utah Jazz
30	Sun, Dec 28, 2025	9:00p			@	Los Angeles Clippers
31	Tue, Dec 30, 2025	10:30p			@	Los Angeles Lakers
32	Thu, Jan 1, 2026	7:00p				Miami Heat
33	Sun, Jan 4, 2026	2:00p			@	Cleveland Cavaliers
34	Mon, Jan 5, 2026	7:00p				New York Knicks

 

[Deleterious]

 

[1984Echoes]

On 11/21/2025 at 2:39 PM, Deleterious said:

No clue who this guy is.  Only posting it because them looking to move him makes some sense.

Harris makes $26 million this year.  If they let him walk as a free agent, they are still over the cap next year.  So him leaving via free agency doesn't create any cap space.  Trading him for a player on a longer contract is really the only way to continue using his money.  

 

Memphis says "No, we're not trading JJJ."

Utah says "No, we're not trading Markkanen."

Milwaukee says: "OK, we'll do a Myles Turner for Harris trade. We'll need 'this' 'this' and 'this'. "

A) If we can't get JJJ or Markkanen... would we have interest in a Harris for Turner trade?

B) What would that trade look like that both Detroit and the Bucks both say "yes, that works." ... ?

[NYLion]

3 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Robinson > Beasley. Shooting is pretty equal but Robinson is better at almost everything else, especially defense. 

Yep, most definitely. He might not be as dynamic as Beasley but he's a better overall player.

[Deleterious]

1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said:

Memphis says "No, we're not trading JJJ."

Utah says "No, we're not trading Markkanen."

Milwaukee says: "OK, we'll do a Myles Turner for Harris trade. We'll need 'this' 'this' and 'this'. "

A) If we can't get JJJ or Markkanen... would we have interest in a Harris for Turner trade?

B) What would that trade look like that both Detroit and the Bucks both say "yes, that works." ... ?

I doubt Milwaukee would do that.  They cut and stretched Dame to sign Turner.  They have $22 million in dead cap space for 5 years to sign Turner.  No way they are trading him for young guys/picks.  Plus, they don't even have a backup C, they mostly use PF's for the backup C minutes, so they wouldn't move Turner without getting a C back.  The only way they move Turner for prospects/picks is if they also are trading Giannis.  

Not sure if you really want Turner anyway.  The shooting is tempting, for sure.  But he looked pretty bad in the playoffs against NYK and OKC I thought.

[Deleterious]

Ratings for the week

[Sports_Freak]

11 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Ivey is badk?   And Harris is healthy?     That means less time for Jenksanity. 

 

This team is deep.  

The upside of all the injuries...it got our bench extended minutes and raised their confidence, as well as JB's confidence in them. Blaha said last night that he's going to give his bench more playing time in appreciation of them helping the team keep winning thru all of the injuries. This helps the starters use more energy for playing better defense. The Pistons are really, really good. And very fun to watch....so much running...

[NYLion]

On 11/21/2025 at 2:39 PM, Deleterious said:

No clue who this guy is.  Only posting it because them looking to move him makes some sense.

Harris makes $26 million this year.  If they let him walk as a free agent, they are still over the cap next year.  So him leaving via free agency doesn't create any cap space.  Trading him for a player on a longer contract is really the only way to continue using his money.  

 

I've been meaning to ask, can you explain the bold? How can they continue to use his money once his contract expires? I don't know, the NBA CBA rules are more confusing than any other sport.

[buddha]

15 hours ago, Deleterious said:

When are they losing? 5 game west coast trip and they will be favored in all 5.

I guess as they advance in the tournament, they will face teams not currently on their schedule.  Those could be good teams.  But other than that its a cakewalk of a schedule.  

 

they'll lose a couple of those west coast games.

 

[Deleterious]

2 hours ago, NYLion said:

I've been meaning to ask, can you explain the bold? How can they continue to use his money once his contract expires? I don't know, the NBA CBA rules are more confusing than any other sport.

Sure.  Create a scenario where the season ends with Detroit right at the salary cap.  Harris makes $26 million, so when his deal expires it would drop them $26 million under the cap.  Meaning they could spend $26 million on a new free agent.

The reality is, they are quite a bit over the cap.  Far enough that his expiring $26 million will not create any new space to sign someone.  That $26 million still comes off the books, obviously, but it doesn't create cap space to use on a new player.  You basically have three options at that point.

Option 1.  They like Harris and want him back next year.  They have his Bird rights and can go over the cap to keep him.

Option 2.  They want to move on from Harris, but still want to use his $26 million on a player.  Since letting his contract expire won't create cap space to use, you have to trade him for a guy making similar money.  If his contract is longer, you still have him on the roster next year.  If he also expires this summer, they would have his Bird rights and could go over the cap to sign him.   Much like Option 1 with Harris.

Option 3.  They don't want a player and prefer the $26 million just goes away.  Duren/Ivey need extensions this summer, Ausar next year.  So losing that $26 million off of the cap might be desirable.  

[1984Echoes]

14 hours ago, Deleterious said:

I doubt Milwaukee would do that.  They ... 

 

So, keying on this part:

14 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Harris makes $26 million this year.  If they let him walk as a free agent, they are still over the cap next year.  So him leaving via free agency doesn't create any cap space.  Trading him for a player on a longer contract is really the only way to continue using his money.  

 

What are our options? Or who is the best trade target for us? ... That is available, and whom the other team will take on Harris (plus whatever else is required...).