2026 Congressional Elections

[CMRivdogs]

A bit disheartening but not unexpected. The way the state constitution is written negates any effort to copy the true gerrymandering of MAGA states

 

[romad1]

BURN THIS MUTHA DOWN

 

[RatkoVarda]

this is now fully baked into just about every level of government and also into most people's personal morality:

Democrats must always follow the rules (of law, of decorum, of tradition, of stare decisis)

MAGA cannot be held to any standard (we will do what we want, whenever we want, don't even question us)

 

[Motown Bombers]

This is what happens when people don’t vote for Hillary Clinton. 

[RatkoVarda]

this is perfect picture from 1962 (except is was yesterday)

[guy incognito]

26 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

this is now fully baked into just about every level of government and also into most people's personal morality:

Democrats must always follow the rules (of law, of decorum, of tradition, of stare decisis)

MAGA cannot be held to any standard (we will do what we want, whenever we want, don't even question us)

 

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

—Frank Wilhoit

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

BURN THIS MUTHA DOWN

 

The question is whether they can get Democrat voters to just throw their hands up and quit, thus ceding permanent ruling power to the Trump regime, versus being energized and fighting against it. Honestly, I have no inclination on which one I would put my money on.

[chasfh]

58 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

This is what happens when people don’t vote for Hillary Clinton. 

If Hillary had won, Trump would have won in 2020.

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, chasfh said:

If Hillary had won, Trump would have won in 2020.

No he wouldn’t. The Republicans would have seen him as a terrible candidate who blew their chance to defeat a weak Democrat. According to Michael Cohen, Trump only ran as a PR stunt because he was going broke, only Americans were dumb enough to elect him. 

[Motown Bombers]

Even if Trump wins in 2020, we would have been set up with a liberal Supreme Court for a generation. 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

This is what happens when people don’t vote for Hillary Clinton. 

Get over it.  She lost an election which should have been an easy victory.  She campaigned poorly.  Her fault. 

[chasfh]

27 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

No he wouldn’t. The Republicans would have seen him as a terrible candidate who blew their chance to defeat a weak Democrat. According to Michael Cohen, Trump only ran as a PR stunt because he was going broke, only Americans were dumb enough to elect him. 

Trump definitely would have won, because he definitely would have run again and Hillary would have taken the blame for the virus.

[GalagaGuy]

13 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Get over it.  She lost an election which should have been an easy victory.  She campaigned poorly.  Her fault. 

Hillary lost while getting 3 million more votes than Trump.  The reason she lost is because of razor thin margins in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan.  Prior to the election, bitter Bernie bros were all over the internet telling us how they were going to vote third party and that's exactly what they did.  Take a few minutes to look at the historic rise in third party votes along with the margin of victory in those states and it becomes clear exactly who is to blame for Trump getting elected.  

[CMRivdogs]

6 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Hillary lost while getting 3 million more votes than Trump.  The reason she lost is because of razor thin margins in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan.  Prior to the election, bitter Bernie bros were all over the internet telling us how they were going to vote third party and that's exactly what they did.  Take a few minutes to look at the historic rise in third party votes along with the margin of victory in those states and it becomes clear exactly who is to blame for Trump getting elected.  

Which is why for at at least the past 50 years the winner take all distribution of the Electoral College needs to change. 
I’m all for proportional splits.

TBH I haven’t done the math, but I think it’s more fair

[GalagaGuy]

To add some numbers, here are the third party voting totals for Michigan ......

2008 - 80,548

2012 - 51,136

2016 - 250,902

2020 - 85,410

2024 - 111,017

You'll see the same pattern if you look at Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.  As a reminder, Trump won Michigan in 2016 by 10,704 votes.  

[Motown Bombers]

32 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Get over it.  She lost an election which should have been an easy victory.  She campaigned poorly.  Her fault. 

She got more votes than Trump. It's never the voters fault. 

[Motown Bombers]

23 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Trump definitely would have won, because he definitely would have run again and Hillary would have taken the blame for the virus.

He may have run, but he probably doesn't make it through the primary a second time.

[Motown Bombers]

4 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

To add some numbers, here are the third party voting totals for Michigan ......

2008 - 80,548

2012 - 51,136

2016 - 250,902

2020 - 85,410

2024 - 111,017

You'll see the same pattern if you look at Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.  As a reminder, Trump won Michigan in 2016 by 10,704 votes.  

I wonder if they are happy with their protest votes? I wonder if there are any Florida voters who admit to voting for Ralph Nader?

[Tiger337]

10 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

She got more votes than Trump. It's never the voters fault. 

But failed to campaign aggressively in some key states.  

[Motown Bombers]

5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

But failed to campaign aggressively in some key states.  

So if she visited Michigan a couple more times, that changes everything? The voters are just blameless victims. 

[CMRivdogs]

Trying to keep a positive attitude while stuck in Chicago traffic

 

[chasfh]

51 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

So if she visited Michigan a couple more times, that changes everything? The voters are just blameless victims. 

They're not blameless victims, but I guess they're moldable clay?

[chasfh]

15 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Trying to keep a positive attitude while stuck in Chicago traffic

 

I do agree that in a free and fair election, contested democratically, the Democrats smoke the republicans off the field.