Jason_R Posted yesterday at 12:02 AM Posted yesterday at 12:02 AM (edited) Amazing that Buffalo is ahead after three turnovers. Edit: Whoops, four. Edited yesterday at 12:04 AM by Jason_R Quote
lordstanley Posted yesterday at 12:32 AM Posted yesterday at 12:32 AM 29 minutes ago, Jason_R said: Amazing that Buffalo is ahead after three turnovers. Edit: Whoops, four. Josh Allen has to do it again. Down 3, getting the ball with 55 seconds to go. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted yesterday at 01:15 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:15 AM Another year, another Bills collapse. I’m not sure it’ll happen in this regime. They can’t string them together in January, no matter what. Quote
lordstanley Posted yesterday at 01:18 AM Posted yesterday at 01:18 AM 2 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: Another year, another Bills collapse. I’m not sure it’ll happen in this regime. They can’t string them together in January, no matter what. 2 INTs and 3 lost Fumbles. Hard to complain about the refs after that. The Bills didn’t lose to Lamar or Mahomes or Burrows, they lost to Bo Nix. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted yesterday at 01:25 AM Posted yesterday at 01:25 AM I guess you can't blame the 49ers kicker for trying. Quote
lordstanley Posted yesterday at 03:05 AM Posted yesterday at 03:05 AM (edited) So on the long completion or on the kneeldown? The last play was the field goal. Edited yesterday at 03:06 AM by lordstanley Quote
lordstanley Posted yesterday at 03:37 AM Posted yesterday at 03:37 AM I’ve seen Payton’s full comments. It was on the Nix run that went for a small loss prior to the long pass that interference was called on Quote
Jason_R Posted yesterday at 02:35 PM Posted yesterday at 02:35 PM 13 hours ago, lordstanley said: 2 INTs and 3 lost Fumbles. Hard to complain about the refs after that. The Bills didn’t lose to Lamar or Mahomes or Burrows, they lost to Bo Nix. A disaster of a game for everybody. Especially the NFL. 1 Quote
Jason_R Posted yesterday at 04:16 PM Posted yesterday at 04:16 PM I think the NFL needs to change the officiating paradigm for DPI. If you, as the WR, have not gotten separation from the DB, you are not getting a DPI short of being tackled without the football. Quote
casimir Posted yesterday at 04:16 PM Posted yesterday at 04:16 PM Maybe Phillip Rivers should’of waited on phone calls for another month? Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted 23 hours ago Author Posted 23 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Jason_R said: I think the NFL needs to change the officiating paradigm for DPI. If you, as the WR, have not gotten separation from the DB, you are not getting a DPI short of being tackled without the football. I haven't seen a good replay on the first one they called in OT, but the placement of the ball after the foul indicates it came earlier in the route than all of the replays showed. And the asinine roughing the passer that happened on the same play made it effectively a two-yard penalty on top of that 15. But the second one, he did gain separation. He was like two yards from the defender on the route. He slowed down a little to attempt the catch and that's when the DB gained ground and swiped, making early contact with the arms of the receiver. It would be a good call in the 1st quarter, and ideally they shouldn't have different standards for OT. If anything needs to be changed, it's the yardage. Make it a 15-yard penalty. Maybe add discretion to make it a spot foul for an intentional foul that clearly prevents a score. There's nothing inordinate about DPI that needs to make it a spot foul and effectively award points. Assuming the catch would be made is a stretch on a lot of these. They can be fouls without being 30-yard fouls. Especially when on the other hand an OPI is a mere 10-yard penalty. Bills have no one to blame but themselves. Quote
Jason_R Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Yes, the Bills cannot expect to win a game with five turnovers. Yes, the OT interception was an interception. Yes, the Bills got jobbed on a DPI called against them at the end when a very similar DPI was not called against Denver with a Bills player in the end zone. I understand the sentiment for a 15-yard DPI, but this would just lead to DBs mauling WRs downfield. I think the only solution is to tell WRs that if a DB has played you well enough that he is in your hip pocket, he can hand fight you all he wants short of wrapping you up. No flags for hand fighting. No flags for face guarding. Only flags if the DB has his arms wrapped around the WR’s arms before the ball arrives. Quote
Nate7474 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Here's my problems with Defensive Pass Interference and other penalties that go back to my coaching days. 1) The defense as every right to the ball as an offensive player yet rarely is it called that way. Yet we celebrate when a WR turns into a defensive player to break up an interception 2) Offensive players should not be rewarded for a bad pass or bad route. If the defensive player gets hit by the under thrown ball and made contact with the WR beforehand because it was under thrown/they overran it then to bad you lost position for that ball. Looking back for the ball should have no impact on if it is defensive pass interference or not. 3) Get rid of the no contact after 5 yards rule if you aren't going to call it both ways. Offensive players have to much leeway to make contact when the defense can't 4) Stop with all the automatic first down calls if its not a personal foul. Why is every penalty against a wide receiver a first down. If you insist on doing that then the offense should have equivalent penalties on their side. Example: OPI= loss of down and yardage like intentional grounding. 2 Quote
Jason_R Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Nate7474 said: Here's my problems with Defensive Pass Interference and other penalties that go back to my coaching days. 1) The defense as every right to the ball as an offensive player yet rarely is it called that way. Yet we celebrate when a WR turns into a defensive player to break up an interception 2) Offensive players should not be rewarded for a bad pass or bad route. If the defensive player gets hit by the under thrown ball and made contact with the WR beforehand because it was under thrown/they overran it then to bad you lost position for that ball. Looking back for the ball should have no impact on if it is defensive pass interference or not. 3) Get rid of the no contact after 5 yards rule if you aren't going to call it both ways. Offensive players have to much leeway to make contact when the defense can't 4) Stop with all the automatic first down calls if its not a personal foul. Why is every penalty against a wide receiver a first down. If you insist on doing that then the offense should have equivalent penalties on their side. Example: OPI= loss of down and yardage like intentional grounding. Yes. Also, defensive players should not be punished for tight defense. If you as a DB have stayed stride for stride with a receiver without holding or impeding his route, you as a DB should be able to make a play on the ball without worrying the refs are going to pull the flag. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Could Stroud be any more stupid? Well..he did go to Ohio State...enough said. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted 19 hours ago Author Posted 19 hours ago Feels like the AFC race is being reduced to who will be the last team with 11 healthy players Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 52 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: Feels like the AFC race is being reduced to who will be the last team with 11 healthy players I wanted the Bills to win because Buffalo is like Detroit with hard luck. The Bills don't just lose games, they get gutted. Another coach in trouble? Think they'd like to have John Harbaugh right now? I don't think it much matters what happens today, it looks like the Seahawks are Peter Stomare in Fargo and everyone else is Steve Buscemi's leg in the wood chipper. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted 17 hours ago Author Posted 17 hours ago Can't believe the only thing standing in the way of the Patriots returning to the Super Bowl is Jarrett Stidham. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted 17 hours ago Author Posted 17 hours ago Demeco Ryans completely waves the white flag, punting down 12 with 4:15 to go. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) Come on, **** off New England. They have a 15 year, multi-Super Bowl run with Tom Brady and now they're likely going back in less than a decade. Meanwhile, we're sitting at home not even in the playoffs yet again. Some fans have it sooooooooooo good. Unbelievable. Edited 17 hours ago by Mr.TaterSalad Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, MichiganCardinal said: Demeco Ryans completely waves the white flag, punting down 12 with 4:15 to go. A complete bitch move by him. In this big a game, you go for it every time. Way to important of a game to be turtling like that and quitting. Quote
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