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[Motown Bombers]

Donald Trump literally lost as the incumbent and came back and won. Kamala Harris is more than capable of winning. 

[GalagaGuy]

35 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Donald Trump literally lost as the incumbent and came back and won. Kamala Harris is more than capable of winning. 

Ain't no damn way a black woman is winning the presidency. 

[Motown Bombers]

1 minute ago, GalagaGuy said:

Ain't no damn way a black woman is winning the presidency. 

She got the second most votes ever for a Dem. 

[GalagaGuy]

7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

She got the second most votes ever for a Dem. 

She got 5 million more votes that Obama did his first time.  Are you suggesting that makes her more popular?

[Tiger337]

7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

She got the second most votes ever for a Dem. 

That's a pretty silly stat considering that she lost.   The recent high vote totals don't indicate popularity.  A lot of people have voted in the last two elections because of mail-in voting.  

[GalagaGuy]

3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

That's a pretty silly stat considering that she lost.   The recent high vote totals don't indicate popularity.  A lot of people have voted in the last two elections because of mail-in voting.  

Combined with the fact there were 30 million more eligible voters in 2024 than 2008

[Motown Bombers]

She got more votes than Trump got in 2020. Dems had a candidate that defeated Trump and got the most votes ever but decided to throw him under the bus and expect Harris to win an election in 107 days. 

[CMRivdogs]

Not for anything related but I have a feeling that at least part of the reason Spanberger won big in Virginia last fall was because the Republican candidate was a woman of color. Not to mention a horrible candidate. A white male would have at least made the race interesting

[CMRivdogs]

Swalwell's  toast. But the guy who rapedv women and children is still adored by his fanatics

 

[Edman85]

51 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

That's a pretty silly stat considering that she lost.   The recent high vote totals don't indicate popularity.  A lot of people have voted in the last two elections because of mail-in voting.  

And also population growth.

[chasfh]

30 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Swalwell's  toast. But the guy who rapedv women and children is still adored by his fanatics

 

So galling that this kind of thing kills one party when it happen to them, but strengthens the other party when it happens to them.

[GalagaGuy]

So at least one of the Swalwell accusers has ties to Katie Porter.  Surely that's just a coincidence I guess.  

[chasfh]

I would still vote for Swalwell—or Katie Porter, or Gavin Newsome, for that matter—than any candidate the republicans would put up there.

BTW, what’s the problem with Katie Porter? Do we hate her now, too? I haven’t heard a thing about anything with her.

[Motown Bombers]

Katie Porter is NIMBY. That’s the last thing California needs. It was also reported that she doesn’t treat her staff well. She has shown a temper. She was asked a question when running for senate that every candidate was asked and she got mad and walked off. She’s also a leftist that never accomplished anything but has a whiteboard. 

[gehringer_2]

12 hours ago, GalagaGuy said:

So at least one of the Swalwell accusers has ties to Katie Porter.  Surely that's just a coincidence I guess.  

Given that lying is the political tool de jure now-a-days, I try not jump to conclusions about any of this stuff. I believe two things are both true: 1) men have gotten away with this stuff in the main for a long time, 2) there is no XX chromosome linked truth gene either.

[Tiger337]

11 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Given that lying is the political tool de jure now-a-days, I try not jump to conclusions about any of this stuff. I believe two things are both true: 1) men have gotten away with this stuff in the main for a long time, 2) there is no XX chromosome linked truth gene either.

When has lying not been the political tool of the day?  

I strongly agree that men get away with lying much more easily.  When they do it, it is considered crafty and slick.  When a woman does it, she is a bad person.  

 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

When has lying not been the political tool of the day?  

 

Fair point. Maybe I'd have been more accurate to say that the difference today is that there seems to be no cost to be caught lying. We lost that somewhere after Nixon, but may be it's unclear exactly where.

[gehringer_2]

So how/who do we organize to get something like this on a Michigan ballot:

https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2025/08/07/transparent-election-initiative/

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A bipartisan team of former Montana officials have unveiled an oddly simple yet startlingly robust legal mechanism for undoing Citizens United that pares back the list of corporate powers granted by state corporation law. They have drafted a constitutional initiative (text here) and are steering it toward Montana’s 2026 ballot.

https://dailymontanan.com/2026/04/01/montana-supreme-court-dismisses-constitutionality-challenge-to-the-montana-plan-initiative/

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Montana Supreme Court dismisses constitutionality challenge to ‘The Montana Plan’ initiative
Ballot measure can continue collecting signatures for November election
By:
Micah Drew
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April 1, 2026
2:53 pm

 

 

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Katie Porter is NIMBY. That’s the last thing California needs. It was also reported that she doesn’t treat her staff well. She has shown a temper. She was asked a question when running for senate that every candidate was asked and she got mad and walked off. She’s also a leftist that never accomplished anything but has a whiteboard. 

Ah, so we do hate her now. Got it. Just want to make sure I knew which way the wind was blowing.  Hard to keep up sometimes.

[Motown Bombers]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Ah, so we do hate her now. Got it. Just want to make sure I knew which way the wind was blowing.  Hard to keep up sometimes.

I haven’t liked her for a long time but it is true she is known to be difficult to work with and her NIMBYISM is exactly what California doesn’t need. 

[CMRivdogs]

Expel them both and anyone else at every level of government who cant keep it in their pants...

 

[CMRivdogs]

9 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Expel them both and anyone else at every level of government who cant keep it in their pants...

 

It would take a 2/3 majority. So basically it aint going to happen,

We do need a new Constitutional Convention

[chasfh]

I would just like to wish here that the Democrats are not unilaterally disarming here, and they are so wont to do.

[Motown Bombers]

Swalwell getting out of the race would help Dems. California does. A jungle primary and there is a cluster**** of Dems running. It’s not inconceivable two republicans advance.