2/27/26 7:00PM Cavs 37-23 @Pistons 43-14

[Betrayer]

That ball touched every part of the rim for Tobias. Glad to see it go down but why aren’t we running pick and roll with Daniss and Duren the last five times down?

[Betrayer]

You need one stop. Yet still no holland or green. 

[Shinzaki]

Best game of Duren's life

[buddha]

they called that a jump ball.

ridiculous.

[Betrayer]

So many fouls on that “jump”

[IdahoBert]

Good God, that was intense! 

[Deleterious]

Cava favs are confused. Usually it's Mitchell pissing away a win

[buddha]

let us hope that the pistons' opponents in the playoffs will all be missing 3/5 of their starting lineups.

[Betrayer]

Was Daniss flexing at the ref after the buzzer?

Edited 18 hours ago by Betrayer

[Tigeraholic1]

Ugly W but W just the same.

[Betrayer]

lol at Malone saying “usually you foul when you’re up three like that.”  Dude doesn’t know our coach. 

[Betrayer]

Cavs lost that game, we didn’t win it. But I’ll take the W nonetheless. 

[Deleterious]

Stew's first game back is Tuesday when they play in Cleveland.  

[Deleterious]

Ausar with 36 minutes.  I wonder if that is his highest minute total of his career.

[Tigeraholic1]

 

[Deleterious]

Duren would look great in a Bulls uniform

[Betrayer]

10 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Duren would look great in a Bulls uniform

He's getting a max and it's going to cap this team's ceiling. I can't deny he puts up good numbers, but big men aren't good enough at creating for themselves and others to warrant a max in my opinion (except for Joker). And his mediocre defense doesn't make up for it. It's not like Cade can sit and Duren can run the offense, he still needs someone to feed him most of the time.

[gehringer_2]

36 minutes ago, Betrayer said:

He's getting a max and it's going to cap this team's ceiling. I can't deny he puts up good numbers, but big men aren't good enough at creating for themselves and others to warrant a max in my opinion (except for Joker). And his mediocre defense doesn't make up for it. It's not like Cade can sit and Duren can run the offense, he still needs someone to feed him most of the time.

turn the question around. If they don't keep Duren, who can fill the void he leaves behind that they either have, or can get? Duren's not a perfect player but I always get a sense of 'the grass is greener' going on in the dissatisfaction level over him. Mitchell may not have been playing but Duren was making a guy that had led the league in the past in DWS look like a child.

I get that maxing any player is a tough call, but to me that decision is more about whether the team can afford two maxes in general, less about whether Duren could be one.

Edited 5 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Motor City Sonics]

The amount of awareness and poise with Jenkins can't be overstated.   That kid is a find.    Plus the way Paul Reed stepped up when they needed him.   Quality of minutes.   Talk about roster-building.  It's not about the quantity of minutes, it's about the quality.  Jenkins made Ivey expendable.   I just hope the guy they got for Ivey can't do something at some point.   Feels like a bit of a wasted opportunity so far.   

Don't care about who was out for Cleveland.  A win is a win.       We had plenty of games without Cade and Duren and Harris and we won 'em.    

[Betrayer]

3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

turn the question around. If they don't keep Duren, who can fill the void he leaves behind that they either have, or can get? Duren's not a perfect player but I always get a sense of 'the grass is greener' going on in the dissatisfaction level over him. Mitchell may not have been playing but Duren was making a guy that had led the league in the past in DWS look like a child.

I get that maxing any player is a tough call, but to me that decision is more about whether the team can afford two maxes in general, less about whether Duren could be one.

I have no idea who we could get, but you presented the exact problem I have with it: 2 max players is about all your going to get.

In today's NBA would you want that second max player to be a Center who's mediocre on defense, can't shoot threes, and is mostly dependent on Cade to get his numbers? A simple rim runner like Daniel Gafford could give you much of what Duren gives you on offense while adding better defense for far less than the max. I want my second max guy to be able to run the offense when Cade sits or has a bad night, similar to a Tatum/Brown pairing.

Of course, that ship has sailed and I doubt there's anything to be done but pay the man at this point. At 25M I'd have been fine with it, but at 40M it's going to cap the ceiling of this team.