2026 DETROIT TIGERS REGULAR SEASON THREAD

[Tiger337]

3 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I think the problem with WAR isn’t that it’s a flawed statistic to look at—but that people want to assume that it’s a consistent and predictable way to evaluate a players future production.

The question shouldn’t be “what was his WAR last year?”  It should be “are his underlying metrics supporting the idea that his WAR is repeatable?”

I tend to agree.  I use it mostly to help describe what has happened in the past.  Some of the elements of the various WARs are indeed predictive of the future, but when you try to mix all the parts together, there are a lot of things that can change in the future.  For the future, it only works as baseline.

[casimir]

1 hour ago, theroundsquare said:

my knee hurts. so, also the fans 

Our eyes hurt from watching this month.

[chasfh]

8 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I think the problem with WAR isn’t that it’s a flawed statistic to look at—but that people want to assume that it’s a consistent and predictable way to evaluate a players future production.

The question shouldn’t be “what was his WAR last year?”  It should be “are his underlying metrics supporting the idea that his WAR is repeatable?”

WAR can be useful for projecting future production since it tends to be process-oriented, whereas results can be skewed by luck, and sometimes a lot.

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I tend to agree.  I use it mostly to help describe what has happened in the past.  Some of the elements of the various WARs are indeed predictive of the future, but when you try to mix all the parts together, there are a lot of things that can change in the future.  For the future, it only works as baseline.

RA9-WAR is very good for describing what happened with pitchers, since it is results-oriented and doesn’t factor out BABIP or LOB. When I do backward-looking pitcher analysis, I typically use RA9-WAR instead of WAR.

[Edman85]

40 man moves to make room for Melton and Brieske could get interesting...

[gehringer_2]

9 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

40 man moves to make room for Melton and Brieske could get interesting...

yeah - the guys I would care least about losing are position players but that's a mismatch since it's pitchers that are coming back.

Edited 5 hours ago by gehringer_2

[casimir]

15 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

40 man moves to make room for Melton and Brieske could get interesting...

The move for Melton was probably predetermined.  I’m ignorant on Brieske’s estimated return.

8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

yeah - the guys I would care least about losing are position players but that's a mismatch since it's pitchers that are coming back.

Hurter was pulled last night.  So what for and does it become a factor in the decisions?  It’s hard to believe whatever he did would cause a trip to the 60 day IL, but who knows.

[gehringer_2]

15 minutes ago, casimir said:

The move for Melton was probably predetermined.  I’m ignorant on Brieske’s estimated return.

Hurter was pulled last night.  So what for and does it become a factor in the decisions?  It’s hard to believe whatever he did would cause a trip to the 60 day IL, but who knows.

Thing is, even if Hueter ends up on the 60 eventually with a more serious muscle strain, that's probably a decision they would normally prefer not to make until a week or more on the 10 day after they see how it's responding. Of course what they 'prefer' to do is probably swirling down the drain with the rest of team's chances.

[casimir]

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

Thing is, even if Hueter ends up on the 60 eventually with a more serious muscle strain, that's probably a decision they would normally prefer not to make until a week or more on the 10 day after they see how it's responding. Of course what they 'prefer' to do is probably swirling down the drain with the rest of team's chances.

Well, you would think that’s what would occur.  But as you say, the drain swirling is getting a bit out of control.  We’re into the chapters of the choose your own adventure book that nobody thought we’d be reading.

[monkeytargets39]

52 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

40 man moves to make room for Melton and Brieske could get interesting...

Vanasco and SGL

[Tenacious D]

At least we’re not the loser Angels!

 

[NorthWoods]

11 blown saves sucks.   I wish Chris Illitch would issue and organizational decree to stop signing washed up old relievers.