2026 DETROIT TIGERS REGULAR SEASON THREAD

[Tiger337]

What if someone is good at baking, but messes up the frosting?

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

If we take the least biased esitmate and say that some other pitcher gives you half the advantage those two did (i.e. split the diff) , that would be 9 of those 18 extra wins, which  would have  left them in 1st by 1/2 game going into the crash rather than 9.5 up

but whatever, no team can lose it's number one and two starters and not need help just to stay even, esp when one of them is the best pitcher in the league. Now if the totally strange and bizarre happens and they retain Skubal.....

Sure, let’s say. 😉 

[chasfh]

8 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

What if someone is good at baking, but messes up the frosting?

Even someone good at baking can’t finish the cake when it’s still only halfway done in the oven.

[Sports_Freak]

14 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

What if someone is good at baking, but messes up the frosting?

A no-bake cheesecake?

 

[Tiger337]

6 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Even someone good at baking can’t finish the cake when it’s still only halfway done in the oven.

What if you have a rare ingredient which can bake the cake quicker even if it's not perfect.  You know that ingredient won't be available in the future, so you have to get it done now.  

[chasfh]

1 minute ago, Tiger337 said:

What if you have a rare ingredient which can bake the cake quicker even if it's not perfect.  You know that ingredient won't be available in the future, so you have to get it done now.  

Like what?

[Sports_Freak]

11 hours ago, 4hzglory said:

But we know teams were asking for Melton specifically.  And others of the top 4-5 which included McGonigle, Clark, Briceno, and Rainer.  For the available bats, definitely not worth it-the only bat that really made an impact was Naylor.

Yeah, I heard rumors they were asking for Melton. And, IMO, he was untouchable for the players who appeared available. And the other players you mentioned? Yeah, not for rentals or washed up players.But there were players moved for much less than top prospects. For instance, Suarez...who didnt do much, even though thats hindsight:

Mariners receive: 3B Eugenio Suárez
D-backs receive: 1B Tyler Locklear (Mariners’ No. 9 prospect), RHP Hunter Cranton (No. 16), RHP Juan Burgos (No. 17)

 

[Motor City Sonics]

2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

What if you have a rare ingredient which can bake the cake quicker even if it's not perfect.  You know that ingredient won't be available in the future, so you have to get it done now.  

Someone left the cake out in the rain.     

[4hzglory]

31 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Yeah, I heard rumors they were asking for Melton. And, IMO, he was untouchable for the players who appeared available. And the other players you mentioned? Yeah, not for rentals or washed up players.But there were players moved for much less than top prospects. For instance, Suarez...who didnt do much, even though thats hindsight:

Mariners receive: 3B Eugenio Suárez
D-backs receive: 1B Tyler Locklear (Mariners’ No. 9 prospect), RHP Hunter Cranton (No. 16), RHP Juan Burgos (No. 17)

 

The Diamondbacks were the specific team mentioned that required Melton to be included for Suarez.

[4hzglory]

32 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Yeah, I heard rumors they were asking for Melton. And, IMO, he was untouchable for the players who appeared available. And the other players you mentioned? Yeah, not for rentals or washed up players.But there were players moved for much less than top prospects. For instance, Suarez...who didnt do much, even though thats hindsight:

Mariners receive: 3B Eugenio Suárez
D-backs receive: 1B Tyler Locklear (Mariners’ No. 9 prospect), RHP Hunter Cranton (No. 16), RHP Juan Burgos (No. 17)

 

For the record, I would have been open to including one of the Briceno/Rainer for Johan Duran and potentially both for Joe Ryan, but not any of them for any of the bats that were available.

[chasfh]

Fun fact: Tigers did better at 3B between Colt and McStinky after August 1 than the Mariners did with Suarez. And we still have Troy Melton.

Scott Harris FTW. 😉 

[oblong]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Fun fact: Tigers did better at 3B between Colt and McStinky after August 1 than the Mariners did with Suarez. And we still have Troy Melton.

DetroitTigers forum

 

Scott Harris FTW. 😉 

but that doesn't satisfy the "do something" itch.

[Sports_Freak]

8 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

For the record, I would have been open to including one of the Briceno/Rainer for Johan Duran and potentially both for Joe Ryan, but not any of them for any of the bats that were available.

Yeah, the bats didn't preform much. I was hoping for Suarez, it was a position of apparent need and he wanted to come here. But in hindsight, he didn't do much after he was traded. Bullet...dodged 

[Sports_Freak]

9 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Fun fact: Tigers did better at 3B between Colt and McStinky after August 1 than the Mariners did with Suarez. And we still have Troy Melton.

Scott Harris FTW. 😉 

So we need somebody running the team who can see into the future? The defense of Scott Harris never ends, huh? Any waiver wire players available? A Harris speciality...🤣🤣

[NorthWoods]

3 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

 Bullet...dodged 

................................by Harris.

[oblong]

so he dodged a bullet but should have been shot anyway because he didn't know he was dodging a bullet

 

[4hzglory]

25 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

So we need somebody running the team who can see into the future? The defense of Scott Harris never ends, huh? Any waiver wire players available? A Harris speciality...🤣🤣

TBF, it wasn't hard to see that Suarez was likely to fall off - his recent history showed (strong first halfs, poor 2nd halfs) it as well as his K pct.  I didn't want anything to do with him myself as we already had enough issues with contact.  If we got him for Jace Jung, sure.  But nothing of real value.

[Sports_Freak]

Just now, 4hzglory said:

TBF, it wasn't hard to see that Suarez was likely to fall off - his recent history showed (strong first halfs, poor 2nd halfs) it as well as his K pct.  I didn't want anything to do with him myself as we already had enough issues with contact.  If we got him for Jace Jung, sure.  But nothing of real value.

And he may have been even worse at Comerica. Like I said, we dodged that particular bullet.

[4hzglory]

2 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

And he may have been even worse at Comerica. Like I said, we dodged that particular bullet.

So then why is he the one bat you keep using as an example of the trade Harris should have made?  The Diamondbacks required Melton, his fall off was predictable, his swing and miss didn't fit what the lineup needed.  Yet he is the 1 example you keep repeating as evidence that Harris won't make any trades to improve the offense.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Sure, let’s say. 😉 

If you want to put it more saberish terms, the two of them were worth ... wait for it.... 9 WAR (fangraphs) and 9 WAR of pitching talent doesn't grow on trees (as me old mum used to say).

All reasonable methods of estimation should converge toward the same value.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Like what?

Skubal sauce

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

What if someone is good at baking, but messes up the frosting?

eeww

[Sports_Freak]

43 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

So then why is he the one bat you keep using as an example of the trade Harris should have made?  The Diamondbacks required Melton, his fall off was predictable, his swing and miss didn't fit what the lineup needed.  Yet he is the 1 example you keep repeating as evidence that Harris won't make any trades to improve the offense.

I just said he was traded for less than blue chip prospects. People think Arizona wanted our best young players and they traded him for much less. But whatever, I did say we dodged the bullet, hindsight is wonderful.

[Sports_Freak]

51 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

So then why is he the one bat you keep using as an example of the trade Harris should have made?  The Diamondbacks required Melton, his fall off was predictable, his swing and miss didn't fit what the lineup needed.  Yet he is the 1 example you keep repeating as evidence that Harris won't make any trades to improve the offense.

36 home runs and close to 100 RBI at the trade deadline would look very good to many fans. Diving into deeper stats may have showed warning flags but sometimes those are ignored. As Chas pointed out, Tiger 3rd basemen out performed him. And like I said, his stats would (or may have) been worse at Comerica 

[4hzglory]

16 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I just said he was traded for less than blue chip prospects. People think Arizona wanted our best young players and they traded him for much less. But whatever, I did say we dodged the bullet, hindsight is wonderful.

They are the specific club and the specific player that the article sited wanted Melton (who was rated around our 9th prospect IIRC).  They did want the specific pitcher we needed and even you said you wouldn't trade.