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3 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Tork is definitely amping up his trade value!

:ducks:

Tork and Riley...the problem with them is consistency. They both have long extended cold spells that makes fans want to send them to Toledo. They're both hitting right now but it's our pitching thats letting us down....big time.

As for trading either of them? We probably couldn't get much for either...if Harris was ever capable making a blockbuster trade. Most of his trades hsve been pretty insignificant. 

Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Tork and Riley...the problem with them is consistency. They both have long extended cold spells that makes fans want to send them to Toledo. They're both hitting right now but it's our pitching thats letting us down....big time.

As for trading either of them? We probably couldn't get much for either...if Harris was ever capable making a blockbuster trade. Most of his trades hsve been pretty insignificant. 

Because he is a HR hitter, I think people tend to overestimate Torkeson as a hitter somewhat. His OBP so far this year is higher than any year in his career, but probably because he came out of the gate slow the 1st week I bet most fans would be surprised by that. He's always been limited as a hitter beyond the HRs. If he could hold a 350 OBP for a season it would be a breakthrough for him.

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15 minutes ago, 4hzglory said:

Don't look now but Greene (.874), Tork (.813), and Carpenter (.863) are now above .800 OPS - Along with McGonigle (.946) obviously.

Two weeks ago all three were on the trading block or demotion watch. You got to love baseball fans.

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2 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Sadly you can say the same for Holton and Hurter

A bit...Holton's ERA is inflated at 4.50. But Hurter has an acceptable 2.45 ERA. Vest is/was at 6.75 coming into today, down to 6.17. Not something we want to see in an important setup man. 

Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I'm coming around to the idea that hitting has not been our problem. 😏

I think it's going to take a while for everyone to get the recalibration created by ABS figured out. And I think there will be some roll over in pitching staffs. The #1's, guys that already have great command like Skubal, aren't that affected, but I think at the other end of pitching staffs, some guys who maybe throw hard but are only 'around' the K zone and were living off catchers stealing strikes and umpires' allowances to the outside, are going to end up dropped in favor of guys who maybe give up a few more hits but can throw strikes into the ABS zone. So maybe we see this initial rise in walk rate fall back a little, but a few more balls in play before all is said and done.

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11 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Because he is a HR hitter, I think people tend to overestimate Torkeson as a hitter somewhat. His OBP so far this year is higher than any year in his career, but probably because he came out of the gate slow the 1st week I bet most fans would be surprised by that. He's always been limited as a hitter beyond the HRs. He could hold a 350 OBP for a season it would be a breakthrough for him.

I said last year that I thought Tork would be .350 obp this year because of how often he seemed to get called out on bad third strikes.  I think of all players, he’s going to be a huge bump from ABS being in play.

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4 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I said last year that I thought Tork would be .350 obp this year because of how often he seemed to get called out on bad third strikes.  I think of all players, he’s going to be a huge bump from ABS being in play.

He seemed to be the Tiger most victimized by egregiously bad calls last year. Haven't noticed that much this year, but you make a good point that he should benefit more than others from the ABS. 

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