Deleterious Posted yesterday at 02:03 AM Author Posted yesterday at 02:03 AM Ayo Dosunmu would be a nice target in free agency. Unfortunately, I think his playoff performance might have priced Detroit of the Ayo market. I don't think the MLE will get it done. 1 Quote
Deleterious Posted 18 hours ago Author Posted 18 hours ago Something to remember about free agency. The rumor is Detroit will sign international player, Isaac Bonga. 6'8" and an excellent wing defender. He won the best defender award in Eurobasket, which is a step-down from Euroleague. His shooting is good in Europe, but they use the 20'6" line which is even shorter than the NCAA. He didn't shoot well the last time he was in the NBA. But he was young then and didn't play much, so maybe he's improved. If the rumor is true, this will obviously eat into their cap space a bit. His NBA and international stats: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bongais01.html https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/isaac-bonga-1.html Quote
KL2 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 22 hours ago, Deleterious said: Your answer is not realistic at all. No team is moving assets to clear cap space while there is a chance Detroit matches the offer. Can you imagine what a disaster that would be? You trade away assets then don't get your guy. Wow. Didn’t the pacers do literally that? Quote
Deleterious Posted 16 hours ago Author Posted 16 hours ago 19 minutes ago, KL2 said: Didn’t the pacers do literally that? Technically, yes. They cut 3 or 4 out of the rotation guys to get an extra $4 million in cap space. Those type of guys constantly get cut/waived to shave a few million here and there. The Lakers would need to clear $45 million which would require moving rotation players and/or draft picks. Two very different things. Quote
Deleterious Posted 16 hours ago Author Posted 16 hours ago Good news, Jalen Duren is now eligible for the 30% max contract. Here is what it would look like: Only the Pistons can offer it to him. He can not get this contract in a sign and trade. 1 Quote
Deleterious Posted 16 hours ago Author Posted 16 hours ago Cade making all nba impacts his next extension as well, or could. His next extension normal max number is 30% of the cap. If he wins MVP before then or makes all nba one more time in the next two season, he will be eligible for a super max which is 35% of the cap instead of 30%. Hard to tell where the cap will be by then. But I would expect a 35% extension to be around 5/$400 million. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, Deleterious said: so for the sake of argument, if the Piston's sit and wait and no-one else offers what happens? Quote
Deleterious Posted 14 hours ago Author Posted 14 hours ago 11 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: so for the sake of argument, if the Piston's sit and wait and no-one else offers what happens? He can sign his qualifying offer. It's a 1-year deal for about $9.6 million. He receives a no trade clause for the season. So he can be traded, but he has to agree to it. Next summer he becomes a free agent again, but it would be as an unrestricted free agent instead of restricted. Basically, the Pistons would not have the option to match an offer next year. 1 Quote
buddha Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago i put the odds of them re-signing duren at 95%, with a 50% chance he gets $38m+ per year. Quote
Deleterious Posted 12 hours ago Author Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, buddha said: i put the odds of them re-signing duren at 95%, with a 50% chance he gets $38m+ per year. Maybe I will start watching cricket. Quote
NYLion Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 14 hours ago, Deleterious said: Yuck You guys keep denying reality but the reality is that his market has risen with the All Star and All NBA selections and there's just no way he's getting the $30m or less that you all are hoping for. The strong regular season was a blessing and a curse. Edited 1 hour ago by NYLion Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 28 minutes ago Posted 28 minutes ago 13 hours ago, Deleterious said: He can sign his qualifying offer. It's a 1-year deal for about $9.6 million. He receives a no trade clause for the season. So he can be traded, but he has to agree to it. Next summer he becomes a free agent again, but it would be as an unrestricted free agent instead of restricted. Basically, the Pistons would not have the option to match an offer next year. to me the dilemma for Duren is how does he improve from here? He was much better this season than last, but mostly by doing better at things he already showed he could do. He's at the point now where the next increment in his game pretty much has to be his shooting, and that's asking to see a skill we really haven't seen at all yet - other than that he has a decent touch at the FT line. A Piston fan could be forgiven for being jaded about the likelihood of a big man's shooting improving. Quote
Deleterious Posted 26 minutes ago Author Posted 26 minutes ago 1 hour ago, NYLion said: You guys keep denying reality but the reality is that his market has risen with the All Star and All NBA selections and there's just no way he's getting the $30m or less that you all are hoping for. The strong regular season was a blessing and a curse. Oh no, I 100% agree his market is not $30 million. It's between $20-$25 million. Want more? Cool, bring me an offer sheet giving you more and we'll talk. Quote
Deleterious Posted 5 minutes ago Author Posted 5 minutes ago 14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: to me the dilemma for Duren is how does he improve from here? He was much better this season than last, but mostly by doing better at things he already showed he could do. He's at the point now where the next increment in his game pretty much has to be his shooting, and that's asking to see a skill we really haven't seen at all yet - other than that he has a decent touch at the FT line. A Piston fan could be forgiven for being jaded about the likelihood of a big man's shooting improving. For me, it's mostly about his playoff performance. What he did in the regular season means nothing if he can't replicate it in the playoffs. Something else nobody is talking about, his effort issue. In the Cleveland series he had a three game stretch of 2, 4, and 5 rebounds. Your 6'10" 240 pound center had 11 total rebounds over a three game span. That isn't a skill issue, that is an effort issue. Quote
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