05/19/2026 6:40p EDT Cleveland Guardians at Detroit Tigers

[Tiger337]

5 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

McGonigle is a nice little hitter but isn't going to provide any power.  He's on pace for 7 home runs.  He's not going to be a game changer, especially with a bunch of guys who can't hit around him.

The only reason I didn't like the Valdez signing is He's an average guy who relies on ground balls coming to a team with very limited range and defensive ability in the infield.

I don't understand the obsession with home runs.  I think he is a game changer...but he can't do it by himself.  Trout never could either and he hits plenty of home runs.  

[Tiger337]

26 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Ugh...first off, they signed Valdez BEFORE they had pitching injuries. Olson was still being counted on, so was an effective Flaherty. As well as Melton. So current injuries, while predictable, arent the reason they signed Valdez. But hitting WAS a known problem and that problem was ignored. You cant say McGonigle was their answer to our hitting because nobody knew he was even going to be on the team. Its like....one strawman argument after another.

So, they just should have assumed that there would be no pitching injuries?  Olson was not healthy at any point in the off-season and Melton was somewhat of an unknown.  You need at least 7 starters on your roster going into the season.  

Edited 1 hour ago by Tiger337

[NorthWoods]

43 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Ha-ha....are you kidding me? Seriously? Maybe we'll win and these guys can just....keep playig. I'm sure over the next 10 games, we may even win another one.  SMH

lol kidding.   After Riley that lineup is where rallies go to die.

[SoCalTiger]

Does anyone here think that if Tork and Keith were playing for the Guardians or Brewers or Rays that they would be performing better ? Am I wrong to feel that way ?

 

And McStinky must be injured to the point he can not play shortstop. No other reason Zack is here without his attack. 

[gehringer_2]

15 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

So, they just should have assumed that there would be no pitching injuries?  Olson was not healthy at any point in the off-season and Melton was somewhat of an unknown.  You need at least 7 starters on your roster going into the season.  

A baseball team is all about building player/talent capital. If you are starting from a point where you don't have a lot, the resources available in a single off-season to collect more may not be enough for all you need. Likewise, until you can build up enough talent capital that you have more than you can put on the field at one time, trading is pretty much a zero sum game because it's hard not to end up giving up something you still need to get something you want. It's a long process, like building up your bank account, and the worst thing you can do for the long term is make some kind of splashy trade that actually moves you backwards by making your team older and shallower.

Edited 1 hour ago by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

55 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I didn't say everything was fine and wonderful.  What I am saying is that they would be a worse organization without analytics.

See Angels, Los Angeles.

[tiger2022]

49 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I don't understand the obsession with home runs.  I think he is a game changer...but he can't do it by himself.  Trout never could either and he hits plenty of home runs.  

Because a home run gives you instant scoring.  You don't need to rely on stringing two or three hits together by punch and judy hitters.  

[Tigermojo]

Detroit did more in the offseason than other AL Central teams. They can win the division. They won't give up until the last game is played. 

Things look bad right now but there are plenty of games left and Cleveland isn't some juggernaut boogeyman. 

[IdahoBert]

Vierling CF

McGonigle 3B

Jones, Jah DH

Dingler C

Greene, R LF

Torkelson 1B

Pérez, W RF

Lee, H 2B

Short SS

[IdahoBert]

So, the Tigers are going up against Parker Messick tonight, who is really good. So given the way baseball works the Tigers will probably win this game one way or another and then go on to lose 7 of their next 10 games.

Don’t blame me. Don’t kill the messenger. This is the kind of weird ass stuff that happens.

[Tiger337]

36 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

Because a home run gives you instant scoring.  You don't need to rely on stringing two or three hits together by punch and judy hitters.  

I understand that but other teams are able to score runs without a high home run total.  Milwaukee, Tampa Bay and Miami have fewer homers than the Tigers, but they rank in the top half of MLB in runs scored.  The difference is the get on base more often than the Tigers.  

Edited 2 minutes ago by Tiger337