06/09/2026 6:40p EDT Minnesota Twins at Detroit Tigers

[4hzglory]

15 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

If we had a CF whose OF play was on a par with Shorts SS play and hit just as badly, that would be an improvement over any day when Perez was out there -- obviously depends what it would have cost for that marginal improvement. Really, we should turn the argument around because the issue is really just  Perez - period. He's fielded poorly in RF and CF and he hasn't hit. I think if you look at his performance you can say two things, he certainly has hit below expectation, so you can say a GM can't go by anything other than what a guy has done, and on that score, Perez has simply disappointed. If you look under the covers a bit, what you see is that he has completely fallen off the cliff as a LHB. His LH OPS 2024/2025/2026 go 708/688/476. Mostly because his LD rate is minscule this season. As RHB he is still OK (with relatively few AB his RHB OPS is 785). Of course since you already have Vierling as a RH OF, you only really want Wenceel as LHB, and on that score, he has been simply terrible. The numbers say you are absolutely better off just playing Matt all the time (687 career OPS against RHP) and forgetting about the platoon. But who-know-who is filling out the line-up cards. 

Or keep Perez as the RH hitter off the bench, and DFA Jones.  Then you at least have someone who is hitting as your RH bat and in dire situations, you can play him in the field.

[chasfh]

Controversial opinion: Scott Harris and A.J. Hinch are doing as well as anybody else would under the circumstances we have in place and therefore do not deserve to be fired.

Also, the Tigers are 6-1 in June so far, which with some fans they will get zero credit for. 

[Tiger337]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

Controversial opinion: Scott Harris and A.J. Hinch are doing as well as anybody else would under the circumstances we have in place and therefore do not deserve to be fired.

Also, the Tigers are 6-1 in June so far, which with some fans they will get zero credit for. 

That is not a controversial opinon at all.  I bet that the majority of people here do not want Harris and Hinch to be fired.

[TigerNation]

2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

But they were trades. No trades happen in April or May? 100% wrong.

Who said no trades happen in April or May? I certainly didn't say that. 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, 4hzglory said:

Or keep Perez as the RH hitter off the bench, and DFA Jones.  Then you at least have someone who is hitting as your RH bat and in dire situations, you can play him in the field.

to defend Hinch (after just zinging him) he's banking on Perez regressing to his projection, and he has popped a couple long balls recently - but again mostly RH (4 of 6). When to make the decision to pull the plug on a guy playing below his norm is never better than a guess in baseball. Hinch always tends to play long. That's just his thing  and he's always fair game to question on that score, but you can just as easily be wrong playing short. Flaherty being the counter example. He stuck with him and he is pitching better.

[DTroppens]

This time of year I may see a graphic on the TV or hear a radio broadcast where they talk about the standings, but I generally don't make a habit of look at the standings too much until probably at least July these days. Just the general comments I hear floating around as I live life, kind of give me the sense of what I need to know where the Tigers stand in the standings. 

Today was the first time I actually went to a site this entire season just to look at the standings to finally figure out "Okay, how good or bad is the situation?" Basically what I've heard is what I saw about the Tigers status. But while I've heard the AL isn't that good this season, it wasn't until I saw today's standings I realized just how bad the AL is. Five teams with winning records and the two with .600 win percentages are in the East? I didn't click on the AL Wild Card standings, but even the Angels (didn't know they had the worst record in the AL) aren't dead. They win five straight  or eight of 10 I'm sure they'd be no worse than five games out of a playoff spot. 

I've heard the AL is pretty weak this season. But until I looked at those standings, I didn't realize how weak the AL really was. Hey, it benefits the Tigers. I'll take it. I'm still mad of all those seasons about being in the AL East finishing fifth when in the West the Tigers would've been right in the middle of the division race. 🙂

[chasfh]

28 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

That is not a controversial opinon at all.  I bet that the majority of people here do not want Harris and Hinch to be fired.

I said that for its comic value. I know there is no groundswell support here for them to be fired.

By the same token, if we accept that Harris and Hinch are the best combo for this franchise—which, if you don’t want them replaced, you’d have to agree with—then we also have to have some basic acceptance of their plan and its timetable, and allow it a fair opportunity to play out.

I’m not saying we can’t complain about things they do or don’t do—that’s our prerogative as fans.  By the same token, I don’t think it’s exactly reasonable to criticize them for not completely abandoning their plan in order to try to maintain the overachieving of the past couple years, doubling down on flawed players we will be leaving behind soon and reinforcing them with more flawed players from outside in a go for broke fashion. To expect Harris to do that and then rake him for not doing that is to essentially criticize Harris for not being someone else. Anyone who wants him to be someone else wants him to be fired and replaced with someone else.

I’m pretty sure this is not going to change anyone’s thinking about Harris or Hinch, and there will continue to be criticism for Harris essentially not being somebody else in the job. But the important thing is that Chris Ilitch is not expecting Harris to be someone else, and that he gives him all the room to spool out the plan that Harris sold him on when he came here in 2022.
 

[Tiger337]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

I said that for its comic value. I know there is no groundswell support here for them to be fired.

By the same token, if we accept that Harris and Hinch are the best combo for this franchise—which, if you don’t want them replaced, you’d have to agree with—then we also have to have some basic acceptance of their plan and its timetable, and allow it a fair opportunity to play out.

 

I don't accept that they are the best combo for the franchise.  I am not unhappy with them, but I don't know if whether they are the best combo.  However, if there is a better combo, they might not be able to get it.  If they get fired, they might hire someone that made me unhappy.  I am actually pretty convinced that Hinch is a very good manager.  I am less sure about Harris, but there are enough things I like about him where I don't want him to be fired.