monkeytargets39 Posted Sunday at 07:49 PM Posted Sunday at 07:49 PM (edited) Number one offseason priority is add guys to the bullpen who don’t walk guys and have velocity I literally don’t care if we add anything else and run it back completely with everyone else Edited Sunday at 07:49 PM by monkeytargets39 Quote
Tenacious D Posted Sunday at 07:59 PM Posted Sunday at 07:59 PM This game, win or lose, should serve as the reminder for why we dealt Skubal and Mize. While this team should be and mostly is very good, they can’t overcome a tragic bullpen. 1 1 Quote
Adullin Posted Sunday at 08:02 PM Posted Sunday at 08:02 PM Why are we not challenging obvious balls that are called strikes? Quote
IdahoBert Posted Sunday at 08:05 PM Posted Sunday at 08:05 PM That bottom of the 7th with Lee at bat felt like the last best chance, but you never know, we’ve all seen these guys come back dramatically. Quote
SeattleMike Posted Sunday at 08:08 PM Posted Sunday at 08:08 PM 10 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said: Number one offseason priority is add guys to the bullpen who don’t walk guys and have velocity I literally don’t care if we add anything else and run it back completely with everyone else It's so strange. Tigers bullpen MLB ranks: 6th in ERA,7th in xERA, 15th in FIP, 8th in xFIP, and 7th in LOB%. Yet the Tigers are 12-21 in one run games. Lots of fumbles in high leverage situations, obviously. But is that something you can really plan for. Seems more random than anything else. Read an article somewhere about how much the Tigers struggle in close and late situations, both on the mound and at the plate. This more than anything explains this bizarre season. And is mostly statistical noise. 1 Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted Sunday at 08:19 PM Posted Sunday at 08:19 PM 8 minutes ago, SeattleMike said: It's so strange. Tigers bullpen MLB ranks: 6th in ERA,7th in xERA, 15th in FIP, 8th in xFIP, and 7th in LOB%. Yet the Tigers are 12-21 in one run games. Lots of fumbles in high leverage situations, obviously. But is that something you can really plan for. Seems more random than anything else. Read an article somewhere about how much the Tigers struggle in close and late situations, both on the mound and at the plate. This more than anything explains this bizarre season. And is mostly statistical noise. Yep. And in watching a lot of the games this year, it’s been either because relievers come in and are immediately erratic to start their appearance and/or a complete inability to generate a whiff when they’re ahead in the count. So many early inning walks and opposing batters getting hits in pitchers counts or being able to work back into the at bat if they’re down. Quote
chasfh Posted Sunday at 08:25 PM Posted Sunday at 08:25 PM Jesus, Vargas just reached up out of the zone and tomahawked that thing outta here. I mean, come on, what can you do about homers on pitchers' pitches? Quote
chasfh Posted Sunday at 08:25 PM Posted Sunday at 08:25 PM 16 minutes ago, SeattleMike said: It's so strange. Tigers bullpen MLB ranks: 6th in ERA,7th in xERA, 15th in FIP, 8th in xFIP, and 7th in LOB%. Yet the Tigers are 12-21 in one run games. Lots of fumbles in high leverage situations, obviously. But is that something you can really plan for. Seems more random than anything else. Read an article somewhere about how much the Tigers struggle in close and late situations, both on the mound and at the plate. This more than anything explains this bizarre season. And is mostly statistical noise. That sounds familiar ... 😏 Quote
chasfh Posted Sunday at 08:26 PM Posted Sunday at 08:26 PM 27 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: This game, win or lose, should serve as the reminder for why we dealt Skubal and Mize. While this team should be and mostly is very good, they can’t overcome a tragic bullpen. "Tragic" is probably as good an adjective as you can hang on this bullpen, because "terrible" they are not. Quote
NorthWoods Posted Sunday at 08:28 PM Posted Sunday at 08:28 PM 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: Jesus, Vargas just reached up out of the zone and tomahawked that thing outta here. I used to play slow pitch with a guy that would hit a couple HRs a game like that. Quote
1984Echoes Posted Sunday at 08:28 PM Posted Sunday at 08:28 PM Our bullpen is a Shakespearean Tragedy? Or a Greek one...? Quote
romad1 Posted Sunday at 08:31 PM Posted Sunday at 08:31 PM Does this mean the White Sox can dance with our dates? Quote
SeattleMike Posted Sunday at 08:32 PM Posted Sunday at 08:32 PM 1 minute ago, 1984Echoes said: Our bullpen is a Shakespearean Tragedy? Or a Greek one...? Another issue: how many 9th inning comebacks this year? I can think of one, against the Mariners. That's it. That's pretty unusual as well. Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted Sunday at 08:32 PM Posted Sunday at 08:32 PM That just seemed like a miserably unlucky series, but the Sox are definitely the better team. Quote
Tiger337 Posted Sunday at 08:33 PM Posted Sunday at 08:33 PM 26 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: This game, win or lose, should serve as the reminder for why we dealt Skubal and Mize. I am reminded of the opposite. It would have been nice to have Skubal and Mize pitching this series. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted Sunday at 08:36 PM Posted Sunday at 08:36 PM What was the word I used to describe the effect of getting swept by the White Sox? "Devastating"? I was right about that one. Quote
Tiger337 Posted Sunday at 08:38 PM Posted Sunday at 08:38 PM (edited) 7 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said: That just seemed like a miserably unlucky series, but the Sox are definitely the better team. They have a better record, so they have been the better team this year. I wouldn't say they are definitely better going forward based on one series. The Tigers didn't play well in this series. 5 1/2 games back is probably too much though. The wildcard is now their most realistic chance. Edited Sunday at 08:40 PM by Tiger337 Quote
Tiger337 Posted Sunday at 08:40 PM Posted Sunday at 08:40 PM 3 minutes ago, chasfh said: What was the word I used to describe the effect of getting swept by the White Sox? "Devastating"? I was right about that one. Did you predict a sweep? Quote
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