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08/16/2022 7:10 EDT Detroit Tigers at Cleveland Guardians


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Another strong performance from E.Rodriguez forToledo tonight. Six innings, one run and 11 strikeouts. If he bounces back, if Skubal doesn’t need Tommy John surgery and if Turnbull recovers, the starting pitching should be much improved next year. A lot of if, but ...

Now how about a couple of righthanded thumpers in the off-season. Austin Meadows should bounce back from injuries on the left side, and his brother may not be far away.

Hope is eternal!

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By not being good enough.

He did a lot of good things for the Org. But he didn't do good enough. He wasn't fast enough. He wasn't good enough in trading. He wasn't good enough in position prospect drafting (unless it was a top 5 1st round pick... although Parker may yet salvage that...) until he reduced Chadd's role in drafting which was, too little too late. He introduced analytics into the Org, but not enough, and not fast enough.

I like the things that Avila DID do for the Org... but it wasn't enough, or fast enough, for anyone else. He was probably in over his head and remains a better #2 in the FO rather than a #1.

In other words, not quite good enough.

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26 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

By not being good enough.

He did a lot of good things for the Org. But he didn't do good enough. He wasn't fast enough. He wasn't good enough in trading. He wasn't good enough in position prospect drafting (unless it was a top 5 1st round pick... although Parker may yet salvage that...) until he reduced Chadd's role in drafting which was, too little too late. He introduced analytics into the Org, but not enough, and not fast enough.

I like the things that Avila DID do for the Org... but it wasn't enough, or fast enough, for anyone else. He was probably in over his head and remains a better #2 in the FO rather than a #1.

In other words, not quite good enough.

Back in the day we called that 'Peter Principled,' - eventually promoted to his level of incompetence.

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35 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

By not being good enough.

 

but I agree with the premise, and that is why it probably took Ilitch so long to fire him. Organizationally Avila didn't appear do anything wrong per se, he just didn't do enough of the things he was doing that were generally correct directionally. And since he was lousy at negotiating trades he couldn't make up any ground on that front.

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11 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

but I agree with the premise, and that is why it probably took Ilitch so long to fire him. Organizationally Avila didn't appear do anything wrong per se, he just didn't do enough of the things he was doing that were generally correct directionally. And since he was lousy at negotiating trades he couldn't make up any ground on that front.

Or he was slow, and/ or underwhelming, in the implementation...

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Just now, mtutiger said:

What an ending... so much saltiness over what was clearly the correct call

yeah - they Clevelanders will feel a little silly in the clubhouse once they see the replays. Barnhart's glove or equipment or something must have made some noise that made them think the ball had hit the dirt despite that it clearly had not because they sure seemed convinced.

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