Media Meltdown and also Media Bias 101

[Deleterious]

1 minute ago, mtutiger said:

The FCC has the right to regulate the airways. But if it's chair uses his position to coerce ABC to fire a personality for speech it doesn't like, that's potentially a 1A case. At least per Ken White.

Again, pretty straightforward.

Then Kimmell is set for a pretty big payday.  But I imagine ABC/Disney and Nexstar have a lawyer or two as well.  

[Sports_Freak]

3 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Didn't he say that on Fox News?  That is cable, and the government doesn't have any say over it.  They own the OTA channels like ABC, NBC, CBS, and regular Fox.  They do regulate those.  Sorry man.  

So the government is going to censure the media? There's no way this isn't fascism, pure and simple. Suing newspapers and magazines that criticize the absolute corruption of the Trump administration? The media is their enemy. 

[CMRivdogs]

 

[mtutiger]

2 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

So the government is going to censure the media? There's no way this isn't fascism, pure and simple. Suing newspapers and magazines that criticize the absolute corruption of the Trump administration? The media is their enemy. 

Yeah, the discussion of whether Carr, obo Trump, technically has the right to do this kinda glides past the question of whether he should do it in the first place. Or what it says about this administration and how it feels about speech it doesn't like.

Either way, one thing that distinguishes this action from Colbert is that that action was more subtle... and the talking point about his shows profitability muddied the waters enough to make it seem innocuous. The smoking gun (ie. Carr's appearance on Benny Johnson) makes it is pretty clear what happened here. People shouldn't be obliged to play dumb about any of it

[oblong]

Just now, mtutiger said:

Yeah, the discussion of whether Carr, obo Trump, technically has the right to do this kinda glides past the question of whether he should do it in the first place. Or what it says about this administration and how it feels about speech it doesn't like.

Either way, one thing that distinguishes this action from Colbert is that that action was more subtle... and the talking point about his shows profitability muddied the waters enough to make it seem innocuous. The smoking gun (ie. Carr's appearance on Benny Johnson) makes it is pretty clear what happened here. People shouldn't be obliged to play dumb about any of it

Very courageous to stand behind the “well technically they probably can so I don’t see the issue here” argument isn’t it?

I still haven’t learned what he said that was so problematic.  Yes it does matter. Not some abstract bull**** that it’s just about making a boss happy. 

[mtutiger]

13 minutes ago, oblong said:

I still haven’t learned what he said that was so problematic.  Yes it does matter. Not some abstract bull**** that it’s just about making a boss happy. 

It's not even clear the bosses know what was problematic...

Edited yesterday at 01:39 AM by mtutiger

[CMRivdogs]

12 minutes ago, oblong said:

Very courageous to stand behind the “well technically they probably can so I don’t see the issue here” argument isn’t it?

I still haven’t learned what he said that was so problematic.  Yes it does matter. Not some abstract bull**** that it’s just about making a boss happy. 

This is what I got from ChatGPT

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rom the Monday, September 15 episode of Jimmy Kimmel Live!, Kimmel commented on the recent tragic killing of Charlie Kirk (a conservative activist/figure).

 

Some key excerpts:

 

“We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.”

 

“In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving.”

 

He then showed a clip of Donald Trump responding to reporters about Kirk’s death. When asked how he was holding up, Trump said, “I think very good.” Shortly afterward, he mentioned, “by the way, right there where you see all the trucks, they just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House.“

 

Kimmel followed with:

 

“He’s at the fourth stage of grief: construction.”

 

And:

 

“This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend. This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish.”

 

 

 

 

Additional Comments / Followups

 

 

On Tuesday’s show, Kimmel also criticized people in “MAGA land” for trying to “capitalize on the murder of Charlie Kirk.”

He also pushed back on a claim by JD Vance (a conservative politician/commentator) that many of the “lunatics” in American politics are on the far left, asking rhetorically who had supported or participated in January 6, etc.

 

 

[CMRivdogs]

More concise from ChatGPT 

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Extended Summary & Key Quotes

 

 

• Kimmel opened by noting how over the weekend, people aligned with MAGA were trying to “characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them”, and “doing everything they can to score political points from it.”
• He added: “In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving.”
• He then described how the White House flew flags at half-staff. He said there was criticism of that, but “on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.”
• Next, he played a clip of Donald Trump being asked how he was holding up after the shooting. Trump responded: “I think very good, and by the way, right there where you see all the trucks, they just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House.”
• After the clip, Kimmel returned with sarcasm:
  “Yes, he’s at the fourth stage of grief, construction.” 
  “Sconces you wouldn’t believe.” 
  “There’s something wrong with him, there really is. Who thinks like that?”
• He asked rhetorically why the White House was building a $200 million ballroom, suggesting it might be a diversion from other controversies.
• He also said: “This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend. This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish.”

 

 

[Tigermojo]

Must be the ballroom. Can't make America great again until you have a ballroom.

[Deleterious]

17 minutes ago, oblong said:

Very courageous to stand behind the “well technically they probably can so I don’t see the issue here” argument isn’t it?

I still haven’t learned what he said that was so problematic.  Yes it does matter. Not some abstract bull**** that it’s just about making a boss happy. 

That's what adults do.  Children sit there and complain that shouldn't happen because I don't like it.

[Deleterious]

 

[mtutiger]

1 minute ago, Deleterious said:

Children sit there and complain that shouldn't happen because I don't like it.

Does that make Republicans children for every time they complained about something Obama or Biden did? 

[CMRivdogs]

1 minute ago, mtutiger said:

Does that make Republicans children for every time they complained about something Obama or Biden did? 

Or complained incessantly about "cancel culture"

It seems like they're getting a big kick out of pretending to be offended. 

[Deleterious]

2 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Does that make Republicans children for every time they complained about something Obama or Biden did? 

If Obama and Biden had the law behind them?  Yes.  

[mtutiger]

1 minute ago, Deleterious said:

If Obama and Biden had the law behind them?  Yes.  

Does Trump have the law behind him here? It's an open question.

Either way, taken to its logical conclusion, merely disagreeing with any political action by any President makes one a child so long as it's technically legal. That's dumb and not how politics has ever worked.

[pfife]

Remember hashtag twitter files

Funny

[mtutiger]

Incredible stuff

[oblong]

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

That's what adults do.  Children sit there and complain that shouldn't happen because I don't like it.

That’s not far from what they said at Nuremberg.  

Adults are the ones to distinguish between right and wrong, not just fall back on “legal and illegal”. 
 

[oblong]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

Does Trump have the law behind him here? It's an open question.

Either way, taken to its logical conclusion, merely disagreeing with any political action by any President makes one a child so long as it's technically legal. That's dumb and not how politics has ever worked.

It’s the artificial intelligence of political analysis.  “Just computing it boss”

[Deleterious]

12 minutes ago, oblong said:

That’s not far from what they said at Nuremberg.  

Adults are the ones to distinguish between right and wrong, not just fall back on “legal and illegal”. 
 

It was never leagl to hunt and murder Jews, you dumb ****.

[VegasTiger]

3 hours ago, Deleterious said:

It was never leagl to hunt and murder Jews, you dumb ****.

Was it legal to drive the train?

[mtutiger]

6 hours ago, Deleterious said:

It was never leagl to hunt and murder Jews, you dumb ****.

The Nazi Party controlled Germany and were the ultimate arbiters of what was legal and illegal within Germany until they fell from power.

[mtutiger]

Among the de jure Nuremberg Laws was prohibiting Germans and Jews from marriage and intercourse.

That's a terrible law that infringed upon the rights of the German population. But it was legal, so...

[mtutiger]

Another blast from the past lol

[Tigeraholic1]

Jimmy Kimmel getting benched has the left more fired up than a political assassination.