Media Meltdown and also Media Bias 101

[mtutiger]

15 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Jimmy Kimmel getting benched has the left more fired up than a political assassination. 

When fourth grade arguments like this about how all of us should give up our liberties as a tribute to Kirk's death are being made, what do you expect?

Edited September 19 by mtutiger

[Tigeraholic1]

They pulled out for, drum roll please….. What he said… Yet Slipping Jimmy suspension is a national travesty.

[gehringer_2]

4 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

When fourth grade arguments like this about how all of us should give up our liberties as a tribute to Kirk's death are being made, what do you expect?

Charlie is also among the 40,000+ each year who no longer have *any* form of 2nd amendment right either. Somehow I think that is a parallel they will miss.

Edited September 19 by gehringer_2

[pfife]

The left being fired up about Jimmy Kimmel has LOLic and Archief more fired up than they were for a political assassination

[mtutiger]

32 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

They pulled out for, drum roll please….. What he said… 

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/jimmy-kimmel-out-abc-charlie-kirk-comments-1235430078/

Earlier on Wednesday, Trump’s Federal Communications Commission chairman, Brendan Carr, publicly called on licensed broadcasters to stop airing Kimmel’s show.

“I think that it’s really sort of past time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and Disney and say, ‘Listen, we are going to preempt, we are not going to run Kimmel anymore, until you straighten this out because we, we licensed broadcaster, are running the possibility of fines or license revocation from the FCC if we continue to run content that ends up being a pattern of news distortion,’” Carr said Wednesday, speaking with conservative podcaster Benny Johnson.

“We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” Carr added. “These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”

Sounds like he was taken off air because the state wanted him to be pulled off air. 

Edited September 19 by mtutiger

[Tigeraholic1]

But Jimmy is the people’s champ.

 

[mtutiger]

20 minutes ago, pfife said:

The left being fired up about Jimmy Kimmel has LOLic and Archief more fired up than they were for a political assassination

Considering how many people in the conservative movement were fundraising off his death within the first 48 hours, is it really surprising?

The whole enterprise is a grift. 

[mtutiger]

6 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

But Jimmy is the people’s champ.

 

 

12 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/jimmy-kimmel-out-abc-charlie-kirk-comments-1235430078/

Earlier on Wednesday, Trump’s Federal Communications Commission chairman, Brendan Carr, publicly called on licensed broadcasters to stop airing Kimmel’s show.

“I think that it’s really sort of past time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and Disney and say, ‘Listen, we are going to preempt, we are not going to run Kimmel anymore, until you straighten this out because we, we licensed broadcaster, are running the possibility of fines or license revocation from the FCC if we continue to run content that ends up being a pattern of news distortion,’” Carr said Wednesday, speaking with conservative podcaster Benny Johnson.

“We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” Carr added. “These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”

Sounds like he was taken off air because the state wanted him to be pulled off air. 

Care to respond? 

Was your concern over cancel culture ever genuine, or did you stop caring once ya boy became POTUS?

[Deleterious]

They even gave him a chance to fix it and he refused.  

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/how-jimmy-kimmel-benched-by-disney-dana-walden-1236374959/

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But almost immediately after FCC chair Brendan Carr’s appearance on Benny Johnson’s podcast, the storm of **** “became a bigger swirl.”

Within hours, multiple ABC station owners held calls with senior Disney leadership expressing their concern with the comments, a second source tells THR.

Inside of ABC, “multiple conversations” with Kimmel were had at the “executive level,” the first person says, though the talks had not yet reached Bob Iger or TV head Dana Walden. The execs wanted to know: How was Kimmel going to address the situation on Wednesday night’s show?

The answer was not satisfactory to management, sources say. Meanwhile, the advertiser calls began to roll in and then the big affiliate conglomerates, Nexstar and Sinclair, threatened to preempt the show. The second source says that the blowback was snowballing enough that had ABC not acted, Kimmel’s show would have been dark in a large swath of the country, even beyond the Sinclair and Nexstar territories (including in the Washington, D.C., metro area).

 

[Deleterious]

He should be applauded for standing up for what he believes in.  I will almost be sad if he caves now.  Maybe Colbert will have him on as a guest to explain his side.

Inside Disney’s Abrupt Decision to Suspend Jimmy Kimmel’s Show

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Soon after Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr blasted late-night host Jimmy Kimmel on Wednesday over remarks related to the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, executives at ABC and parent company Disney knew they had a big problem.

Kimmel, during his Monday show, had criticized how President Trump and some other Republicans were responding to the fatal shooting. Carr suggested during a podcast appearance two days later that the FCC could take action against the broadcast licenses of ABC-owned stations.

Advertisers and affiliates soon called the network expressing concern about Kimmel’s show. Executives at Sinclair and Nexstar, owners of more than 60 local ABC stations, told network leaders after Carr’s remarks that they would “indefinitely preempt” the show starting that night, moves that would hobble the program’s reach.

Kimmel had planned to address Carr’s comments on his show Wednesday night, according to people familiar with the matter. Before his on-air appearance, Dana Walden, co-chairman of Disney Entertainment, spoke to the host about his plan, the people said. 

After the conversation between Kimmel and Walden, she and other senior executives thought that the star’s approach could make the situation worse, people familiar with their conversations said. Executives also discussed staff safety, including threatening emails staff on Kimmel’s show had received after Carr’s remarks and the posting of some of their personal information online, the people said.

Walden huddled with her team and Disney Chief Executive Bob Iger before the two executives decided to temporarily take “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” off the air, the people said. She then informed Kimmel of the decision.

 

[mtutiger]

18 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

He should be applauded for standing up for what he believes in.  I will almost be sad if he caves now.

The bigger question is whether ABC caves.... 

[gehringer_2]

the thing which is stupid is that Sinclair probably really didn't have much leverage - what are they going to do, run "Bowling for Dollars"?. ABC could have called their bluff and they'd have been back in pretty short order once their viewers gave the affiliates an earful. Put the shoe on the other foot with the viewers.

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[mtutiger]

25 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

the thing which is stupid is that Sinclair probably really didn't have much leverage - what are they going to do, run "Bowling for Dollars"?. ABC could have called their bluff and they'd have been back in pretty short order once their viewers gave the affiliates an earful.

Beyond that, you saw the administration go *beyond* Kimmel today in their statements - you saw Carr going after "The View" and Trump saying that stations that criticize him should be harassed or have their licenses pulled. If you start going after shows that normal people watch (I'd consider Kimmel one of those, but The View is another demographic), that is going to raise negative backlash as well. And impact ratings.

It's not an endless well of leverage that the administration has here. And ABC is owned by Disney, who absolutely could go toe-to-toe with them if they really wanted to (particularly given that they own ESPN).

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[Deleterious]

21 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

the thing which is stupid is that Sinclair probably really didn't have much leverage - what are they going to do, run "Bowling for Dollars"?. ABC could have called their bluff and they'd have been back in pretty short order once their viewers gave the affiliates an earful. Put the shoe on the other foot with the viewers.

1.7 million viewers across 200 affiliates is only 8,500 viewers per affiliate.  Throw an episode of Friends and Seinfeld on and they can do those numbers. 

ABC sells ads based on all 200 affiliates. If a bunch of them no longer show Kimmel they are refunding ad buys while still paying full price to produce his show.  Disney obviously has the means to eat those losses, but they won't want to. 

You also might end up losing some top tier guests. Why go on a show that doesn't reach a good chunk of the country?  

I bet the big affiliates have quiet a bit of power.

[mtutiger]

17 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

1.7 million viewers across 200 affiliates is only 8,500 viewers per affiliate.  Throw an episode of Friends and Seinfeld on and they can do those numbers. 

ABC sells ads based on all 200 affiliates. If a bunch of them no longer show Kimmel they are refunding ad buys while still paying full price to produce his show.  Disney obviously has the means to eat those losses, but they won't want to. 

You also might end up losing some top tier guests. Why go on a show that doesn't reach a good chunk of the country?  

I bet the big affiliates have quiet a bit of power.

Still think if the administration goes down the path they are on (at least the one set forth by the President) that they will lose leverage.... you can't just take large chunks of ABC's viewing audience away without the public noticing.

The bigger question remains whether Disney wants the headache of even owning ABC, and dealing with the news division, going forward. They really don't need it.

[romad1]

You never know what is going to be the thing.   People can see this in real time as an dagger to the heart of the US Constitution and Trump keeps doubling and tripling down on his power play.   Lets hope this galvanizes the libertarian side to join Team Norms and Rule of Law. 

[romad1]

I mean the absolute corrupt nature of all of this is obvious but maybe its more important to be nice to the racists because.

[pfife]

Ive got a good buddy who is hard core MAGA and i caught up with him last night..... he was talking about how corrupt Trump is.   

Sure seems like there could be some fissures.

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, Screwball said:

If I were Kimmel, I would tell them to stick it  and go start a new show. Maybe women jumping on trampolines could be a part of it.

Seriously, ABC might keep Kimmel on contract simply to enjoin him from appearing on air anywhere else, just to keep him shut up at the behest of the regime who will give clearance to powerful affiliate groups to make deals to exceed the 39% ownership market cap by double and then some.

[chasfh]

Just now, pfife said:

Ive got a good buddy who is hard core MAGA and i caught up with him last night..... he was talking about how corrupt Trump is.   

Sure seems like there could be some fissures.

Some MAGA. Guy sounds like a Marxist to me.

[chasfh]

9 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Charlie is also among the 40,000+ each year who no longer have *any* form of 2nd amendment right either. Somehow I think that is a parallel they will miss.

They don’t expect their viewers to think about it as deeply as you do.

[mtutiger]

3 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Seriously, ABC might keep Kimmel on contract simply to enjoin him from appearing on air anywhere else, just to keep him shut up at the behest of the regime who will give clearance to powerful affiliate groups to make deals to exceed the 39% ownership market cap by double and then some.

As has been discussed previously, actually firing him probably opens up a viable 1A lawsuit as well (given the FCC's statements on the matter)

[chasfh]

8 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Considering how many people in the conservative movement were fundraising off his death within the first 48 hours, is it really surprising?

The whole enterprise is a grift. 

Remember how grief-stricken the president was the night of the Kirk shooting? Very touching. 

 

 

 

[chasfh]

7 hours ago, Deleterious said:

They even gave him a chance to fix it and he refused.  

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/how-jimmy-kimmel-benched-by-disney-dana-walden-1236374959/

 

Kimmel fix what? Fix his penchant for criticizing our brave and handsome president who has totally big hands? Is that what “first person” and “sources” are suggesting? Because that’s exactly how it reads to me.

[chasfh]

7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

the thing which is stupid is that Sinclair probably really didn't have much leverage - what are they going to do, run "Bowling for Dollars"?. ABC could have called their bluff and they'd have been back in pretty short order once their viewers gave the affiliates an earful. Put the shoe on the other foot with the viewers.

I believe they’re going to run a tribute the Charlie Kirk, which will certainly contain nothing of what he’s actually said on his show. And then they’ll just re-run it over and over to pwn libtards.