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Well, but here's the flip side to it. There are two other 3B of varying degree in Toledo right now. Sure, they may be used at other positions and there is the DH, too. But, Maton is already 27. The bat is suspect right now. He has played defensively elsewhere. I'd prioritize reps at 3B for Maton/Keith over Maton simply because they seem to have the longer window of potential with the team. 3B can easily be handled by the 2 of them and they would have time at their other positions. Maton can play middle infield in Toledo. Who knows, maybe there's a bit of familiar comfort on the defensive side that translates to the bat. I guess the scary thing is, maybe there isn't a defensive 3B to be had among the trio?

I think there's a market for Bogdanovich given his offense. I'm not going to argue with you that he might be overrated and Burks might be underrated to the point where they are more equal in talent than some would think. But the market might not necessarily value these talents correctly, either. It just takes a GM/owner to think they need more offense to create interest in Bogdanovich. There's always a bit of an illusion to some folks about how good the best player on a crappy team is. And part of that illusion could be overlooking the defense for the offense, particularly if a team thinks it already has pretty good defense and rebounding already. And with Cunningham's return, and with Ivey having a season under his belt, reliance on Bogdanovich by the Piston should decrease. So that illusion is going to fade just a bit, too. So, there's probably a bit of motivation by the Pistons to make a move, particularly with Harris on the team for a season. I wouldn't expect Miami to be a trade target. I think they tend to operate differently than the rest of the league and are quite successful with that approach. Bogdanovich probably doesn't match their DNA. But, there are 28 other teams to kick trade ideas around with. Less than that if you filter in cap space, philosophy, needs/strengths, etc. But does that 28 reduce down to 0? I doubt it. So as long as that number is higher than 0, I think there's a market for Bogdanovich.

This could very well be true (I'm drawing a blank on who the free agents were). But the opportunity cost reward isn't necessarily 0.5 WAR. Mixed into that is the reasonable expectations of what Candelario could provide. A repeat of 2022 is possible because he has shown the capability of it. But he's also shown the capability of putting up much better numbers if you go all the way back to 2021. If retaining Candelario would have made it impossible to sign a Lorenzen to his contract, then this team has bigger problems. Certainly the Tigers needed to address the starting rotation. I liked the Lorenzen signing, he's done well enough to justify the risk of signing a non SP (recently) to fill a spot in the rotation. I think that was a reasonable gamble. But for crying out loud, what's one more $7M on top of around $117M, especially when a reasonable possibility exists that the bat comes around and he becomes a trade candidate? I guess the variable that we on the outside cannot calculate is that of did both sides simply exhaust the working relationship to its end? I don't know one way or another, and I'm not going to assume any of us know either. Maybe Candelario needed another environment. Maybe the Tiger brass decided they couldn't do much more with Candelario. It could be somewhere between innocent and acrimonious, and again, we don't know one way or the other. But there is the possibility that it was just time. Its entirely possible that Candelario's 2023 wouldn't have occurred with Detroit. That's part of the vexation of baseball. There's more to assembling a major league winner than just playing rotisserie baseball.

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I guess I forgot Maton and Marisnick on the current 40. If Marisnick returns, this team has problems. Hopefully Maton can salvage a bat and be good enough defensively to play 2B vs RHPs.

All star Jose Cisnero?

I’d guess this as of now: Torkelson, Baez, and Greene returning and playing everyday. Carpenter returns, should play everyday now to see if it’s something that could work going forward. Vierling and McKinstry likely back as bench pieces. Baddoo likely back vs RHPs. Malloy makes his MLB debut, plays regularly, position to be determined. MeadowsP and Keith have a chance to make the team, but I’m not sure it’s guaranteed. Cabrera, Schoop, and Nevin are gone. Haase is not helping his cause. Short, Ibanez, and Kreidler might be in position to bump one another off, can’t imagine the whole trio returning and perhaps there will be room for only one or none of them? I’m sure I missed somebody. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens. I think last offseason was plugging holes and coming up with a roster with options. I think the theme of this offseason will surely be different to an extent. I think we’re going to see more of an effort to competing in the division rather than just filling jerseys.

Ibanez? Seems like too much of a free swinger. Moving on from Baddoo and McKinstry?

Good environment to sell Bogdanovich.

It’s easy to assume Candelario was due for a bounce back season. I’m guilty of that. But what we can’t quantify is how much of this season is a bunch back to the means, simply a return to form (and maybe beyond form). And we also don’t know how much of that can be attributed to being in a different environment. Perhaps there’s something that occurred in Washington to help his rebound that wouldn’t have happened in Detroit. Perhaps he simply needed the rebirth of a different setting to start fresh. I don’t know, I don’t think any of us can know. Heck, Candelario might not even know. But, hey, good for him to extend his career. Harris didn’t have an easy decision with him this past off-season. I think there was reasonable rationale to retaining him and similar to letting him loose. I’d have probably preferred to keep him, but I was vehemently against Cisnero and look how he’s done. So what do I know?

I suspect a bit of the struggles he has had are due to maybe going through any struggles for the first time and trying to figure out that process of getting through it. We know how well he did at ASU and in his short stint in the minors before his debut. When he was demoted to Toledo, he still struggled for a time. I suppose that could indicate a physical adjustment that took some time, but I wonder if he was simply fighting with himself a bit.

I’d rather not send a player given the fact that (1) none of them are really all stars and (2) the Tigers have had enough injuries this season, no need to chance the Tiger rep step off of the platform and break an ankle during team photos.

Can he pitch?

That’s not actually me. I’m blonde.

Jim was drunk in the 90s.

If he’s healthy.

At least he didn’t get hurt.

I’m playin’ chess here.

Hopefully Brooklyn follows through on matching any offer.

Yes. @Shades of Deivi Cruz got me hooked. I take some measure of pride in jogging my memory for the team & team combos. But there was a question about Marlins & Cy Young winner that made me realize I am losing touch with MLB as a whole and maybe becoming too focused on the Tigers. I couldn’t correctly guess Sandy Alcantara from way back in 2022.

I saw his baseball card (as a Tiger) at a restaurant last night and was inspired. No, Fruit Loops was not on the menu.

I wonder if 30 starts per season is following more than 3 times through the batting order for starting pitchers.

Yeah, I was strictly talking about the trade.

I don’t know. Young players, and Wiseman hadn’t even gotten a lot of playing time. Different environments can be beneficial to players and, in turn, teams. It’s obviously an extreme example, I’m not at all suggesting it’s the rule. But we all knew what Ben Wallace was when he got to Detroit, right?

Well, Omoruyi or not, I think moving players is going to happen. I think draft night was too quiet for Weaver. I didn't mind the trade for Bagley. Give him a try, see what happens. I think we've seen it, and its time to move on. That's fine. Bogdanovich specifically, I wonder if its better to be patient and wait out other transactions. I wonder if his market increases as things progress and options become fewer. The lack of defense is tough, maybe as the offseason goes along, given the relative lack of offense in free agency, what can they expect to get for him? Hayes, again, I think he can serve a bit of a purpose on his way out the door. Maybe he takes the lack of an extension to heart, plays like it, and they can move him at the deadline. Along the way, Sasser isn't forced into too much time at the beginning, he can be a 4th/5th G and earn his stripes to move up the chain of command. That probably seems the most optimistic outcome.