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(1) Gaza had its OWN government. Not Israeli occupation. This point is irrelevant in the context of the current Gaza War. AFTERWARDS, Two-state may be brought up again in the context of the greater solution to Palestinian nation-state to include the West Bank. But GAZA was already independent PRIOR to them invading Israel with murderous intent. (2) Then why aren't we hearing a clamoring for this? Why does Egypt get a PASS for not opening its borders and it's ALL on Israel? I hear nothing, from anyone, in the way of criticism for not alleviating Gazan suffering by allowing them a temporary home outside of Gaza whilst Israel goes after the Hamas terrorists that butchered its citizens. THAT would reduce civilian casualties, would it not? (3) They already did. Look at the results. I don't care who governs Gaza, and neither does Israel. HOWEVER, whomever governs Gaza... Israel is ADAMENT that terrorists not be allowed into Gaza and are demanding control oversight or similar over such. And they have EVERY RIGHT to make that demand! Period. (4) Hamas must be wiped out, at least effectively, IMO. I don't do terrorism or butchery. But to declare Israel as "no matter the count" is BS. They've given multiple and ample warnings to areas that contain terrorist tunnels, terrorists, etc. Your statement here is disinformation, pure and simple. (5) Disagree 100%. The US has already brokered humanitarian aid and increases of such aid, has already pressured targeted campaigns in which Israel has COMPLIED, and Two-State is for AFTER Gaza, not a PART of the Gaza campaign. Sorry.

I believe the US should continue to send aid to Israel without conditions in order to... Prevent further BABY BUTCHERING by Hamas. That works for me. Even if it may not work for you.

Oh wait... It's a problem... If Hamas justs... LAYS DOWN their ARMS? But... Why?

I really don't like that delivery, either. I'd prefer Imanaga.

Do you want to stop the death toll, RIGHT NOW? Easy: Hamas = unconditional surrender and gives up the remaining 134 hostages without conditions. The death toll stops TODAY under those circumstances. That works for everyone... right?

EXACTLY my thoughts.

That doesn't change anything I've said. Hamas is the impediment to a ceasefire, not Israel. Unless you are advocating Israel to a unilateral ceasefire, basically saying to Hamas: "Sure, we'll give you whatever you want."

It's not impossible. But the roadblock to agreeing to another one is Hamas. They would rather murder the hostages then relieve the war and fix Gaza. They want their murdering terrorists back, no matter the consequences.

And not just that. Hamas said, explicitly, give us the 6,000 Hamas prisoners you hold (murderers, terrorists, failed bombers, etc...) or we will MURDER the remaining 134 hostages. They weren't vague about this. Because... That's normal... Right? (open question to anyone, not pointed at ben...)

Lee signed with the Giants... and I know Tiger337 was really interested in signing him for the Tigers so... Lee lost Lee.

Well... That should light up the lamp...

Still wannabe in the market for Hader and Yamamoto, if there is any realistic possibility... If not, Imanaga and... Chafin??? as the fall backs?

Time to step up monster-athletic-kid but ferociously-raw... Let's see you at NOT raw but at MORE-than-flashing dominance. Holmes, let's see what you took a shot at in the 3rd round... I believe in you... Both.

Two points... 1) Yeah, got it. I'm insulting Benedict Arnold, true statement. 2) But also, Benedict Arnold DID **** over the US military, specifically by handing West Point over to the British. So, I think I am also correct...

Got it... joking... But... Not joking...

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I was an atheist by the age of 11. My mom forced me to get Confirmed (Catholic) at the age of 13. But I don't hold any grudges. She was just tougher than I am (she's tougher than most). But I was shy and introverted at that age, so: Atheist by 11. Agnostic before then (who knows anything before that age...?). I guess I was also a "Catholic-in-training" before that age.... but obviously the training didn't take. And Confirmed Roman Catholic. That's all on my "resume". It didn't change anything. And like I said... no grudges. It went in one ear... and right back out the other anyways. Hope that doesn't offend anyone...

But THEY (meaning Holmes, his NFL scouts, coaches) did the actual WORK on evaluating whether Young, and/or the cost to obtain him was worth it and they decided to NOT pursue him. I believe he was not even under consideration. That's all I need to know. No one cares if it's "low risk/ high reward" if he was a crappy fit for the Lions. And... Final Word: I'll take Holmes judgement on that. As gospel.

He did not have a similar view. He had a different viewpoint entirely.

I would also state that... Holmes has the ability to identify exceptional, or at least positive contributing talent, or the possibility of such. In almost every round. So yes, he's not going to bat 1.000. There's NO GM who does. But I'll take my chances with his ability to identify talent.

Just wanted to add something here. Specifically to arrows in Holmes' quiver. The challenge is for Holmes to locate a Montez Sweat (1st round - 26th), Maxx Crosby (4th round - 106th overall), or Brian Burns (1st round - 16th) with one of his draft picks. He's taken a few shots at pass rushers, Pascal/ Hutchinson/ Houston/ Levi, etc... We don't know the end result yet since some of these guys are too early in their career and are going through growing pains. Some more than others. A surprise riser/ performer could come out of their current ranks, even. Or he could find one of these guys in the 2024 draft, with a late 1st or 2nd, two 3rds... or a trade up to get his guy. Chase Young is garbage. At least for the Lions. And no, I'm not interested in beating the 49'ers pick with a 2024 2nd to get him. IMO, It's a wasted draft pick if sent out in a trade for Young. Buddha is correct: If there was any guy to get, it was Sweat. But that costs a 1st rounder and a large salary commitment very (too?) early in the Lions rebuilding process. I was interested in Sweat. But if the Lions would rather hold onto all of their 2024 arrows... I'm with djhutch, I'll trust Holmes to find his Montez Sweat AND Maxx Crosby pass-rushers in upcoming drafts. So yes... I want Holmes to have as many arrows in his quiver as possible as I think he will be successful in continuing to identify young talent in the draft that adds to future Lions success. My 2 cents.

Uncertain. Players were drafted with known faults and developmental curves. But if Ausar can't shoot... and never develops a shooting touch, is that on him, or the developmental team? The only way to know that is for a different developmental team to work with him and he "magically" improves his shooting all of a sudden, drastically. Some guys that are not great shooters are, simply, not great shooters. Is that on the player, developmental, or GM who drafted such player? I mean, something like defense (Ivey) should be simple player focus. We DID see Ivey and Duren improve significantly last year... even with a lot of learning and improvement still yet to come... (we hope).

MSU goalie Trey Augustine, very highly regarded 2nd round selected goalie. I'm interested in seeing how Bicker develops. I have him as a dark horse riser. Lots of speed.

Compher's been spectacular... for what the Red Wings wanted out of him. But someone else will just have to step up (Copp?) and, by adding Kane tonight, maybe we're at par, at least for this game.