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Which means we should sell him at his lowest valuation point? Because he will never do any better than that?

Also... At no point did I say the Tigers MUST trade for Melendez or the Royals MUST trade him to us... So please don't attack this like "what a ridiculous idea". The idea is NOT that we MUST trade for Melendez... but rather... I would love Harris to keep his eye out there and be able to pick up similar types of players, whomever they may be. I think he has that ability when we are talking about picking up waiver claim guys and sifting through players to see what sticks. He's made a 100 trades with the Giants sifting through guys... and if it isn't Melendez, maybe he can find similar production by picking up someone similar but who has fallen "under-the-radar". That's the only reason I mentioned him... was that that would be the type of guy that Harris could "uncover". And... if the Royals were actually desperate for pitching to the point they would be happy with Turnbull plus Dingler (I don't know that they are, probably not...), then fine, do it.

Like I said... A minor league contract next year with a ST invite. If he makes an MLB roster, a 40-man move can be made then... Barnhart might get the same too next year...

A guy who hits a .721 OPS, or an .800 OPS in the minors...? Yeah, no thanks.

No one is saying for free. But the bottom line to me is production. Nice player... but he ain't all that either.

Why does every guy that we might have an interest in going to cost Greene + Tork +6 other prospects because all our Tigers are total crap and every other player from another team is pure gold. And then I'll here "just being realistic". No, that's not realistic at all. So... I have an idea... how about whatever trade is proposed, a comp trade or two is offered as evidence that the trade proposal is realistic. I think there's a new baseball trade proposal tool out there too, that has valuations for minor leaguers as well... might help us out a bit. So if I propose two top 10 1st rounders with less than 1 year experience plus 4 complimentary prospects for a young Miggy Cabrera... I can go find a comp trade... Or use this trade simulator to check: https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/ On Kreidler/ Candelario for Peraza/ Donaldson (suggested trade): per the trade simulator, we'd get 3.8 in value (Donaldson is a minus 19 so there's not only the deuche, but also at the end of career/ contract performing badly component). Versus the Yankees getting 6.2 in trade value. Candy doesn't have much value. But this trade is probably realistic enough to get done. Volpe BTW has a trade value of 52.6 versus Peraza's 22.8. I'm not certain how these are calc'd but I'm assuming they are related to prospect rankings etc... So I would just guess... if the Yankees are feeling the same way, we could get Peraza, not Volpe in this trade. On Melendez for Tork or Greene or similar: Melendez has a 26.2 value (??? Wow! What?!)... and Greene has a value of 70.3, ok, got it now, Tork a value of 33.3 (selling low, I would refuse to trade him until he fixes himself first...). Obviously the Tigers would never make a trade like that for him. Similar matchups per the simulator: Turnbull (I would certainly trade him) and Manning (nope) have similar trading grades, if the Royals were desperate for pitching and would consider trading Melendez for a starter. Or... a couple lower level prospects in Dingler and Graham add up to his value. This really says that there is value in waiting for a prospect to get a couple years in MLB to establish real value or they have to do some hot hitting in the minors to create that value (which Dingler & Graham have not done yet...).

Melendez was a 2nd round pick who hit .237 in the minors with an .800 OPS. He's a LH'ed platoon catcher hitting .224 in the majors with a .721 OPS. Can you explain to me how that gets an ask of Greene or Tork or similar ilk?

Yeah... That's exactly the out-of-the-box thinking I'd like to see from Harris...

I didn't see anyone that was Miggy-like to go after (close to FA, big star, small-market team has made the decision that he will be too expensive for them...); where we might be able to put together a package that could get us that player. The closest guys I could find I guess, would be: Corbin Burnes, Brewers (would love to put him at the top of our rotation...!) Willy Adames, Brewers (funny name, there...) Randy Arozarena, Rays (not exactly that close to FA... but a nice RH'ed OF bat that would go well with all our LH'ed OF bats...) MJ Melendez, catcher, Royals (not close to FA and only an ok bat, nothing special... but he's LH'ed and might be a good match in a Tigers catching tandem) Marlins have a bunch of pitchers if we wanted to look there: Sandy Alcantara, Eddie Cabrera, Pablo Lopez, Jesus Luzardo... The other thing out-of-the-box I'm hoping Harris can uncover is a guy in AA or AAA blocked from getting playing time in MLB, or a guy stuck to the bench & not getting enough of a chance. Sort of like how the Royals nabbed Drew Waters (not that he's done well enough in MLB but it's only his rook year...). And how we traded away Suarez (and now Paredes).

Oh... yeah, right.

Minor league deal seems more amenable. He'd play at AA or AAA though, not low-A.

Is he obtainable? I wouldn't know that or not... But also... I'm thinking that's highly not likely as the Angels will do everything possible to keep him long term. Just guessing. I don't think they are hurting for money... and I could see them offering to buy out arbitration years in a huge contract. Just thinking out loud...

I thought I had answered this already but I don't see my post... I guess it either "disappeared" or I was just imagining things... But, anyways... Yeah... I get that... trolling the waiver wire and churning through guys trying to see what sticks is perfectly fine by me... And I saw the references to the Giants doing exactly that... I'm still thinking, or hoping... he finds an unconventional method to also bring in some very high level talent as I had pointed out. But yeah, not mutually exclusive.

He's also buying himself some time as... The mobilization, and training/ equipping/ etc... will take several months... I don't think they can whip together battalions all that quickly at this point...

That should be a fun dog and pony show to watch. With... ultimately, an empty bag of tricks that will be presented to the special master...

Andujar is worse than what we already have so I would say hard pass...

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I'm thinking a Matt Joyce or Steve Kemp comp... That would absolutely be good enough... But... we'll see...

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Early 2023 Prediction: Kerry Carpenter just might make it in MLB... Baddoo just might flop out... (Watch the exact reverse happen...).

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The new Russian Roulette: Take the PLUNGE and see what happens!!!

Actually... I'm thinking the opposite... When Harris says "calculated risks", I'm not thinking back-end or edges of the roster... I'm thinking more along the lines of grabbing a young superstar that a payroll-conscious team believes they can no longer afford, or that they'll lose in FA for basically nothing. I mean... not to rehash or throw out hopes for another Miggy trade but... I'm just going to guess that Harris is shooting for higher end "calculated risks" than back-enders... Guys who are maybe 1 year from FA, with no guarantees that we can re-sign them (until we get them inside the Org...); and the team believes that they just cannot squeeze him into their future salary structure or that the guy wants FA no matter what. I don't think we want the no matter what guys.. we want the squeezed by small-market team wages limitations... Just thinking out loud... Anyone that looks like that...?

Nope. Caffeine. About 3 or 4 Dr. Peppers at this point. I am... fully... caffeinated.

This was the team-killer, right here. If Miggy's contract did indeed cause this ripple effect... then, yeah, an argument could be made...