That ... and talent. Which is why I'm not optimistic a new coach would make much of a difference, although probably worth a try if they don't turn it around in the next couple of weeks. I think the Wings only have 5 above average players on the roster at this point - Larkin, Raymond, Seider, DeBrincat and Kane. Only 5 home grown players of any value at all on the roster - Larkin, Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson and Kasper. Only 2 proven hits by Yzerman - Seider and Raymond, both of whom were top 6 picks overall.