RandyMarsh

If by some chance the Tigers are contenders come the deadline then I'm not trading E-Rod unless we get a Godfather offer. Nowadays unless you are a legit Ace with a track record like Max Scherzer was teams just don't give up much for rentals so I think at best we'd be looking at like a 50 grade prospect that could break out but is far more likely to be a utility guy/AAAA in the end. I'd rather just take my chances that we could somehow keep competing and have an exciting August and September than worry about missing out on a return like that.

If Anderson and Carter are gone I'd be fully onboard with Bijan at 6 and taking somebody like Porter at 18.(This is infact what I just did in the PFF mock I just did) It's redundant but it just comes down to how the Lions graded the players. It seems like there is no consensus online on who the best DB is and several all with 90+ grades so that's what I go by when I say to wait till 18 to get one but if Holmes has one or 2 clearly ahead of the rest then it makes sense to take them at 6 cause chances are they aren't going to be there at 18.

So is it officially down to Lee, Ollie and Collins?

Outside of Anderson or Carter(who both are gone in these scenarios) who could they pick at 6 that you could confidently say would start from day 1? Maybe an outside WR or off ball linebacker but none appear to be worth picking that early. I think Bijan could make an immediate impact despite getting limited snaps at the beginning but unless Swift and Montgomery got hurt he wouldn't be starting or getting the lions share of the snaps.

There would either need to be a major drop or Holmes' board would have to be alot more generous than the pundits. Reason I say that is me personally I haven't seen anybody have more than 20 players with 1st round grades so if Holmes is the same there may not be any player available at the end of the 1st that he feels is worth trading up for. I think back to last year where Jamo was the last guy he had as a 1st round grade, during the war room video you can hear Holmes and Campbell say something like "Well are night is over" after the Jamo pick. They said that cause there was no need for them to watch the rest cause no matter how it shook out or who dropped there wasn't a prospect with a grade high enough that they would be willing to trade up for.

I still wouldn't rule out Skoronski at 6 either depending on how things play out. Makes a strength even stronger and allows you to let Jonah walk if you choose to do that.

That's the conundrum, even though I say Id rather not take a db if the draft falls where there is no Anderson or Carter I don't necessarily have a better choice. Perhaps Bijan and then get somebody like Porter at 18.

Iirc Singer was still mocked to go 1 by alot of people up until around SEC tourney time when Mize was dominating and Singer was losing velo and getting hit around. I vaguely remember some of the pundits even being surprised that KC took him as high as they did as they thought something serious was wrong with him.

I love Witherspoon but given the depth at the position I agree that Id avoid CB at 6.

McShays final mock has us with Anderson and Kancey. I could definitely live with that. He has the 4 qbs and Wilson(texans) going in the top 5. I'm skeptical of that happening but certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

If ERod continues to pitch the way he has he's going to opt out and all we will get is a comp pick so if we can get a prospect(s) better than that you might as well do that, assuming of course we aren't in playoff contention.

Yeah I think he has more upside as a receiver than Hock but I still would be disappointed. Ftr I don't see it happening, even in Mels write he just says something like Witherspoon replacing Okudah and Mayer replacing Hock. Its just lazily replacing the two positions we traded away with who he has as the best ones there. I do think Witherspoon is the most likely option though if nobody unexpected drops but I think it has very little to do with them trading Okudah away.

Kipers final mock has us taking Witherspoon and Mayer. I like both as prospects but boy that would be about the most unexciting and "chalk" selections as we could end up with. That's not to say in the end it wouldn't end up paying off but at first I would come away a little disappointed.

Like Holmes said it's alot easier getting worse at qb than it is to upgrade there. I'm of the opinion once you have a top 10 guy you do what it takes to keep him even if it means overpaying a bit for him. Everybody loves the thought of finding the next Mahomes but as a franchise you can chase that for a lifetime and not find that.

That's true, it's pretty much a given they will go to break right before the Lions pick only for them to return seconds before the announcement. Also you're pretty much guaranteed that they will spend 5 minutes after you pick interviewing a previous selection so they never get to break down your selection.

I don't know where I heard it or for what team for that matter but I swear I was watching a game this past year and the announcers brought up how the team did indeed use a WR or RB as the scout team qb to prepare the defense for the mobile qb they were facing.

The last couple years ESPN has been good about not spoiling the picks by showing the players smiling on their phones talking to the team picking them, I hope that is the case again this year. Which also reminds me to stay off twitter atleast around the Lions pick cause I just love the suspense of finding out who they are picking right when Goodell makes the announcement.

I'm not concerned at all with the cap hit. I mean we have like what 25 million in cap space right now despite Goff's current 30 million dollar hit. Even if he were to jump to the mid to upper 40s we still would be comfortably below the cap. And yeah I know we have some guys lined up to get paid but we also have a few drafts before that happens to find cheaper in house replacements along with some higher priced guys likely coming off the books by then to help offset the raises. Bottom line with the way teams can manipulate the cap the Lions should have no problem fielding a great team around him if/when they sign him to a big extension.

Very few QBs in history can do it on their own, even Mahomes looked ordinary a couple Super Bowls ago when he played without 2 Oline Starters.

I have been on record of wanting to trade up not down bc of the reasons mentioned and I agree that in general you probably aren't best served to trade down but there are outlying situations and I think this would be one of those.

This is a fair point but to me Draymonds actions and behavior are what drive his face being punchable where as for Trae his actions only add to it. For example I remember watching the 2018 NBA draft and knowing very little about Young but as soon as they interviewed him I thought to myself"damn I want to hit that dude", it atleast took Draymond some time to get to that level for me atleast.

Wow that is a surprise. Given his hype I think it's fair to say at this point he has been a disappointment.

To me with the guys they had off the board there is virtually no difference in talent between 6 and 11 so if I can get 2 2nds for that Id do it like I said in a heartbeat, in my eyes you'd basically just be giving me 2 free 2nd rounders. Now if there was a guy(s) who I thought was clearly ahead of the pack and wouldn't want to risk losing him then no I wouldn't risk that for 2 2nd round picks but in this instance I don't feel that is the case. Also got to keep in mind that yeah 2nd rounders are risky but NFL teams still covet them, All Pros have been traded for less so if you can stockpile extra capital you can do alot with that aside from making that particular selection.

Not a hint of irony here I love seeing McKinstrey, Maton, Carpenter, Vierling and Baddoo all in the lineup on the same day. We may still get shutout or something but I rather see them than Cabrera, Schoop Haase etc.

Credit for Trae Young for carrying the Hawks offensively down the stretch and making that 3 to stave off elimination but damn if I said it once I said it a thousand times there is nobody in the NBA or perhaps even sports for that matter that has a more punchable face and mannerisms to me than Trae. I could only imagine how much more annoying I would find him if the Pistons were actually in a playoff series or rivals with the Hawks.