Tenacious D

I don’t see this front office ever giving out the type of contracts that would be required.

A rotation of Skubal, Flaherty, Jobe, Olsen and Mize would be money next year, though.

We’re tearing ourselves apart in here. We need a mercy trade so we can redirect our ire.

Harris and the front office are on a tough spot with the fans. (They might not care). No trade will be viewed as a colossal failure. And anything perceived less than what the Jays received for Kikuchi will be heavily criticized. The truth is that teams might be leary of his back issues. Many have pivoted to worse options (Montas, Kikuchi, Eflin) for reasons unknown. Im good with him holding firm on his ask, even if a trade doesn’t happen. A qualifying offer that results in a high draft pick is worth that risk of setting a high price.

And similarly, we may never know who we were supposed to receive in return. Maybe in 50 years when it’s unsealed.

I don’t think that’s accurate—I believe he had a partial no-trade list. I think it was around 10 teams or so.

Have to assume we had a similar offer from the Astros, as Flaherty > Kikuchi

I see some of the rumored teams that were interested in our pitchers are turning to their Plan B—Orioles, Astros and Brewers. But It was probably always going to be a surprise team where Flaherty ends up.

Yeah, a little problem with the long ball, but a solid (and much needed) performance.

The Kikuchi return is bit concerning.

It’s only gonna get worse when Flaherty goes. One pitcher we can count on moving forward.

You just scooped all of the beat writers who weren’t sure why Kreidler’s at the park. You better get attribution when they clarify why he’s up-first reported by RatkoVarda

For a Flaherty trade, the floor is a prospect like Hao-Ju Lee or someone comparable to Dillon Dingler or Kevin McGonigle, who were drafted in the vicinity of where a compensatory pick would likely fall.

Ok, we heard you. Btw, what are free talent pickups—Waiver/dumpster-diving guys? I’m all in favor—they are worth it for the few times you hit (I.e., Ibanez, Holton). I especially like it with pitchers, because they can be Fetter-ized.

Old Friend alert (McCosky will probably tweet this out when he’s able to collect himself):

Realistically, I’d be happy with something like this: -Holliday -Norby -Kjerstad -Povich for Skubal and Chafin, if required to sweeten the pot. Will someone run this by Greg and the Orioles message board for review and approval?

Evan’s a bit delusional here…

If you trade Skubal and Flaherty, you’re basically surrendering the rest of the season and cobbling together a rotation of our AAA guys, injured starters returning and any MLB ready players via trades.

If he’s injured, he’s likely not getting traded

Isn’t the trade deadline Thursday? I thought it had been moved to August 1st the last few years. Flaherty will start, unless there is a trade. We don’t have the luxury of passing him right now.

Wasn’t suggesting that—only pointing out that I would expect Jansen to get a better trade return than Kelly.

As far as getting organizational fodder in return, the same could have been said about Reese Olsen and Sawyer Gipson-Long when they were acquired. So, who knows?

For the record, I’d rather have Jansen than Kelly.

Uh-oh. Someone seems a bit upset