buddha

first it was livers not playing. then it was bogey not playing. what will the excuse be now that theyre both playing and have made ZERO difference? even joe harris is back. all of the supposed "floor spacers" are playing and the pistons are still losing. not just losing, but getting obliterated! livers and bogey and harris are here and theyre worse! perhaps these guys just arent that good? someone tell the pistons beat writers!

i hope they finish 2-80. that january game with the spurs might be the only chance EITHER of those teams gets a win.

"cade cunningham with the 4th quarter heroics pulling the pistons to within 29! dont look now george but the pistons have momentum and they've got it under 30. the magic sense it too greg and they call time out!" pistons broadcast....probably.

are we allowed to judge this team now that bogey is back? or must they be 1000% healthy before we can judge?

they dont get a 3rd rounder in compensatory automatically. it depends on who else they sign in free agency and what chase young signs for. so stop saying that.

matt millen has a better winning % than troy weaver. isiah thomas has a better winning % as an executive than troy weaver. and he took over an expansion team. and the knicks! elgin baylor has a better winning % than troy weaver. and finally....**** vitale has a better winning % than troy weaver. troy is the worst general manager we've ever seen. and we've seen late stage joe dumars (who also had a better winning % than troy weaver).

so they can lay the groundwork to fire him, obviously.

it will be on the table and he can use it for leverage with his next nfl team.

what a ****ing stupid game.

weaver is terrible at asset management. dewayne dedmon is still on our cap even though he never played a second for detroit. and even with that he's still been a more productive piston than james wiseman. is stewart a success? i guess so. but that's a pretty low bar for a guy who should really be a backup, to have traded a future first round pick to get him and then signed him to that extension as if he's a foundational player on your team.

those guys were coaches more than 50 years ago. he was talking about the last 50 years. anything over 50 and those guys and joe schmidt would be on the list.

the league stepped in to "help" the sixers after they became an embarassment at the end of the hinkie days. they might do the same here. that said, hiring colangelo turned out -imo - to be a huge mistake considering what he did with all those picks hinkie accumulated. otoh, hinkie drafted okafor #3, which should have been a fireable offense. the only person who thought okafor was worth a damn was hinkie....and troy weaver.

pistons-spurs on january 10th should be epic.

we should send half this team down to the g league.

or, if we want to go the conspiracy route, maybe williams wants to show gores that the players weaver has given him suck. which would explain why he keeps trotting james wiseman out there.

who will be the first beat writer to talk about "internal divisions" in the front office over playing time? followed by the subtle "this is why some in the FO balked at hiring monty williams" tweets. that's when you'll know who is getting their info from troy weaver and needs to protect that source.

everything about this year is inexcusable.

three straight for the bulls without lavine. albeit over the hornets, but still...

yeah, making the move in the offseason makes ALL the difference. gtfo beck.

good luck and good riddance.

btw, the spurs are 3-17 with worse advanced stat numbers than detroit.

what's wrong with suh? i wouldnt want him because i question his motivation and he's old. who cares what he did in the past?

is this worse than 79-80 when they went 16-66? let's remember, before that season started the pistons traded their first round pick for bob mcadoo. that pick ended up #1 and the celtics took joe barry carroll and then flipped him to golden state for robert parish and the warriors #1 pick who ended up being kevin mchale. so not only did they have the worst record in franchise history, they got no #1 pick out of it AND built the foundation for the celtics' dynasty. great work d*ick vitale. so troy weaver still has some work to do to be the worst gm in pistons history. that said, vitale did win 30 games the year before, which is 11 more games than weaver's team has won in the last TWO YEARS!

"but monte morris isnt here so we really cant judge this team yet." - JEIII (probably) keith langlois will just flat out tell you the pistons are good, it just hasnt translated into wins yet. we can all get mad but it wont matter. gores isnt even awake yet, he has no idea.