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i wonder how much the nfl paid those people to pretend to be cardinals and jaguars fans?

well that was an obvious pick.

so you couldnt get past the second paragraph? got it.

i said he hasnt done anything but get suspended. do you think every lions pick made by holmes will work out? if so, why did you bitch so much last night?

iffy and levi have both been bad. levi was bad when he played. nobody is going to hit on every pick and even martin mayhew had some good drafts.

you missed the first paragraph? sheesh.

i cant wait for everyone to like every single one of these picks! lol. as an aside, is anyone else sick of kansas city? i am.

melifonwu. levi. jamo hasnt done anything but get suspended. paschal hasnt done anything. we could go back to the rams and talk about robinson at #2. look, i like brad holmes. i think he's done a really good job and i give him the benefit of the doubt but he's not infallible. and YOU were also bitching last night about these picks just like me. everybody on this board who is now all "brad holmes is the best and cant be questioned" was bitching up a storm last night. everyone has calmed down now - me included - but i still question campbell at 18. and its fair to question holmes, he aint perfect.

brad holmes has had plenty of dud picks too. its ok to question brad holmes. lol. youve questioned brad holmes plenty of times too. its a message board full of idiots, its what we do.

that's my motto! lol.

ok. so you never question a draft pick ever? hell man, its a message board and were fans. i dont get the "were not allowed to question brad holmes" arguments from the same people who question **** all the time. ESPECIALLY the people who want to fire the whole coaching staff after every time the lions punt the ball.

interested? maybe. the jets really wanted a tackle. but who knows? maybe with the tackles off the board they take gibbs instead of mcdonald? you'd think if they were interested in an offensive playmaker they would have taken jsn instead of passing on him to take the edge. but maybe they had ginns rated higher? we'll never know.

i dont think campbell is a bad player. i like him. i just think they could have gotten him in the second round. especially with 34. but that's just me going off the consensus mock drafts. i dont really know that. however, i do think holmes saying "people texted me they wanted gibbs" is a little self serving. that said, if gibbs was slated 10 picks lower than where he went and campbell was 15-20 picks lower, so be it. im not worked up about it like i was in the moment.

athletic. dane brugler.

i think that's right. tough player. fast.

and 14 of those 21 came from the defense...

THS: Above-average size and frame with room to add more mass … anticipates well and trusts his eyes to play out in front … has the range and awareness to mirror the run at the line of scrimmage … shows the gap-to-gap quickness and lateral shuffle to work around the noise and find the ball carrier … transitions well in his zone coverage drops (his 6.74 three-cone and 4.24 short shuttle were No. 1 among linebackers at the Combine) … displays a keen sense for route spacing and finds passing lanes (15 career passes defended) … plays with the body strength to match up with blockers … elite toughness … two-year team captain in high school and again in college … not very vocal, but his teammates say he sets the tone with his tenacious effort, and his coaches call him an “amazing” practice player (Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz: “Everything he does, he goes hard”) … egoless and humble off the field (didn’t pursue NIL deals and considers social media a “distraction”) … film study in the foundation of his game … became the first Iowa player to win the William V. Campbell Trophy (Academic Heisman) … combined for 271 tackles over his final two seasons. WEAKNESSES: Doesn’t play with sudden twitch in his lower half to quickly react to ball carriers or blockers, especially in space (his testing showed better short-area suddenness than on tape) … average lateral and closing burst … occasionally waits for the action instead of thumping downhill consistently … inconsistent stack-and- shed skills and must improve his leverage, reach and handwork … vision is focused on the ball and late to locate climbing or side-angled blocks … needs a clear lane to be effective as a blitzer … strong tackler, but not an explosive tackler … missed 2022 spring practices because of a knee injury … has battled a nagging left UCL injury. SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Iowa, Campbell was the “MIKE” linebacker in defensive coordinator Phil Parker’s 4-3 base scheme. Head coach Kirk Ferentz wanted to move him to defensive end or center as a freshman because of his frame, but Campbell pushed to stay at linebacker and averaged 10.0 tackles in his 27 starts, and became the first Hawkeyes player to win the Butkus Award (nation’s top linebacker) and William V. Campbell Trophy (academic Heisman). Fueled by his preparation and smarts, Campbell plays with impressive play speed and awareness vs. both the run and the pass, working relentlessly to maximize everything in his tool box. Though he has a keen eye for tendencies and a nose for the ball, he tends to wait instead of attacking downhill and struggles to quickly redirect/react when ball carriers or route runners put a move on him. Overall, Campbell is inconsistent as a thumper, but his athleticism, intangibles and instincts will keep him in the NFL for a long time. He has the talent to compete for starting reps as an NFL rookie. GRADE: 2nd Round (No. 52 overall)

good offensive linemen too. iowa is a solid player development program...but that offense....ouch.

#3 on nfl.com #3 on athletic #2 on "grinding the mocks" (which is an aggregate) https://grindingthemocks.shinyapps.io/Dashboard/ has a nice graph showing his expected draft position based on mocks with a consensus epd of 43.

jack campbell was the consensus 3rd linebacker behind the kid from arkansas and the other kid from clemson. both of whom are still available. i hope campbell works out. i like iowa players for some reason.

wont matter when victor is here nailing threes.

yeah, but he was gritty!

no idea, but considering who drafted him i'm sure he wasnt. and campbell isnt either if you consider some of these edge players as linebackers (anderson, smith, macdonald). i doubt any of us are old enough or have a good enough memory to remember if chris spielman was either. i remember him being drafted, but i was a teenager.

counterpoint: jordan dizon. but i agree that holmes deserves the benefit of the doubt. even if i reserve the right to overreact when he takes a tight end at the top of round 3. 🙂

according to the consensus "big board" that comes out every year before the draft. the consensus is usually more accurate and teams that take players that go way off it usually dont work out. guys usually fall for a reason: usually health. guys that are considered reaches usually dont pan out. with that said, there are exceptions to those rules and holmes has probably earned the right to be given the benefit of the doubt when he "reaches."