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If Levi Onwuzurike somehow makes this roster I may start denying this inevitability.

Maybe so. Coming off a knee injury as a rookie though, I think it was fair for him to not be expected to be a world beater from day one. And it’s factual that he was not receiving WR2 snap count. I think a lot of my frustration in considering him a potential bust is… when has he had a real opportunity to prove otherwise? He hasn’t been on the field! Okudah was on the field and he stunk, both before and after his injury. If you want to use the six game suspension against Jamo that’s fair (and a separate conversation), but not until he’s proven he’s not good on the field.

I don’t get that feeling at all yet. I get the feeling that the Detroit sports talk media feels a need for a negative storyline and he’s been easy pickings. When he touched the ball last season, good things happened. Yet he wasn’t extensively involved because we were in the midst of a playoff push and were trying to ease him in. This is effectively his rookie camp and rookie preseason. I don’t care that he was a first round pick, there were going to be growing pains. If we get to the end of this season and in his 11 games he is the WR3 or WR4 in terms of production, there is no steady increase in production, or he is still consistently dropping passes, or he is continuing to get hurt, then maybe at that point he can be put on bust watch for me. Right now though I just see a (practical) rookie who is a little immature. He’s just got too much talent for it to not shine through by the end of the season.

Popularity is nebulous, it has degrees, and it ebbs and flows in time. Michigan is a legitimate national championship contender while MSU is coming off a 5-7 season, headed potentially for another. Michigan will have more casual popularity. If you survey 200 random people at a grocery store upstate, you might find 125 people who say they prefer Michigan to 75 Michigan State. If you survey 200 upstate yards with school flags though, you might find 150 MSU to 50 Michigan. I don’t know how they did their polling, but the line between the UP and Wisconsin is way too pronounced for me to think it had much if any scientific accuracy.

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I think in judging Sudfeld's performance and merits for QB3, the differences between what he's being asked to do now versus what he would be asked to do as an emergency QB has to be acknowlegded. Here in the preseason, he's being asked to do specific things for specific reasons. They clearly wanted to involve Jamo, they wanted him to run the second-team offense, they probably wanted to look at some other specific players like Cota and Drummond, and all told they wanted him to run probably 20 specific plays. If we kept him as QB3 and one day have to break the glass for him to enter, he would be asked to do different specific things for different specific reasons. He would likely be running an offense-lite with our first team, behind one of the NFL's best offensive lines, primarily handing the ball off and managing a very simplistic pass game as necessary, just trying to get the ball in the hands of our playmakers. There might be some overlap between what he's doing now and what he would be doing then, but it's far from a perfect indicator. For instance, both of his interceptions came on deeper passes to Jamo (25-30 yards). They weren't good decisions on his part, but short of an end-of-game situation, he's not likely going to be asked to make those throws as a QB3 entering the game in an emergency situation.

Methinks this is a bad decision. Even if he's a better QB talent wise than Gardner Minshew, you're just asking for disaster to strike his career by throwing him to the defensive line wolves like this. Have some recognition that your roster sucks and that you're not going to win 9+ games. Take your lumps and prep him for 2024. Or learn nothing from Justin Fields and hope that AR15 is the anomaly that can overcome being a rookie signal caller surrounded by a dog **** roster.

Is there a buy-in or is it free? Either way, let me know if you end up desperate for one right before the draft. I struggle sometimes to keep on top of two leagues with one on ESPN and one on Keeper though, let alone adding a Yahoo league lol I had thoughts last year that we should have a Fantasy Football thread for just general fantasy and DFS thoughts. I’m sure a handful of us play. This could be a good spot for that.

This, along with his 89.3 PFF rating, is what I saw specifically. He is #91, the better look is on replay.

Metrics and film are saying that Levi had a really good game, despite not having a super flashy stat line like the Okwaras.

I guess I would counter that why would the Lions bother proposing the rule change if they didn’t see a reason to use it. It’s possible they could say that it’s only worth it in playoff games (so you aren’t the 49ers playing CMC at QB in the NFC Championship Game), but the NFL is a league that can easily be decided by one game. I would hate to see Goff and Teddy both go into concussion protocol in week three (by mistake like ASB??), be forced to use Jack Fox (or whoever) as the QB, lose 14-9, and then miss the playoffs or lose the division by a game. It’s a remote possibility of course, but one that enough thought was worth a rule change to prevent. I don’t think keeping someone like an Obinna Eze or Trinity Benson active (but not dressed and unable to enter the game) is worth that risk.

Depends on who is playing. They’ll travel for Michigan-USC or Ohio State-Oregon. Probably not so much for Penn State-Purdue. The Wisconsin-Nebraska Championship ten years ago game had well less than a capacity crowd at Lucas Oil. I doubt those fans will travel to Allegiant Stadium and fill those seats.

With the new rule they’re kind of incentivized to keep a 3rd QB because it effectively allows them to have 46 game day players instead of 45. Certainly if Goff and/or Teddy go down for any length of time they’ll pick up a Matt Ryan or Carson Wentz, but I think out of a break-glass-in-case-of-emergency QB, you’re really just looking for someone dirt cheap who knows the playbook and can avoid catastrophic mistakes. I think not viewing him as top 100 is fair, but it’s so hard to compare the scrapes of the barrel. I still think he might be better than either Boyle or Blough and those are the types you’re looking at as QB3 options.

If they like someone who gets cut, I’m definitely not opposed to replacing him, but if the standards for QB3 are finding a top-96 player at the position, you won’t find many quality players. Given that he knows the playbook and the team, he may be the best option. If he ever came into a regular season game, something went seriously wrong. All he would be asked to do though is hand the ball off and complete short 5-15 yard routes with very few looks.

Long term I think I’d like to add two club seats as well. Partially because they come with parking included, but also it would let me choose what kind of experience I want game to game. I can always sell or give away my other two. Like you said, it does kind of suck to have no idea what’s going on when the ball is at the opposite end zone, but you’re so close to the action generally that it kind of makes up for it.

With the new rule about emergency QBs, I would actually expect both Sudfeld and Martinez to last at least until Hooker is healthy enough that he could take snaps in case of emergency. If they start Hooker on the NFI list (which only makes sense), then he can’t play for the first eight weeks. QB Active: Goff, Bridgewater QB Emergency (dresses but not active unless QB1 and QB2 are injured or ejected): Sudfeld QB Practice Squad: Martinez NFI: Hooker After eight weeks, if you feel more comfortable with Hooker than Sudfeld, you could release Sudfeld and activate Hooker. After the eight weeks you could also choose to start having Hooker practice, though if he’s not activated within three weeks of starting to practice he is ineligible to play for the rest of the season. I think I would just as soon let Hooker just soak it all in from the sideline for a full year though. Let him practice at some point if you’re 100% comfortable with Sudfeld as QB3.

I got lucky when I upgraded. They were the only two available closer than the 20th row or so.

I don’t think it was sold out, but attendance was better (even late in the game) than many games I saw in 2021. Better than Vikings and Cardinals that year for sure. Probably on par with the Jaguars game last year.

23-0 confirmed.

That’s my FOURTH STRING QUARTERBACK

No touchdowns here 😞

Is there anything in Wayne? Nothing has been announced at the stadium as of now.

I try to live in the moment here, but I’m glad I got this one. IMG_5914.mov