Jason_R

I saw that draft. I don’t buy it at all. It will be very expensive to trade up to 3. I don’t see them drafting a QB (and don’t want them to). Mock drafters are obsessed with Detroit drafting a TE, as if the only thing they know about the team is that Hockenson got traded. I thought it was a bad mock all the way around.

I think we are saying the same thing. You wouldn’t consider Bijan if Swift could stay healthy.

I would not be surprised by this at all. I still think the most likely scenario is that Anderson is gone at 3 and Carter is gone at 5. The more I read about Tyree Wilson, he doesn’t seem like a strong fit. Witherspoon is not an outside, lockdown type CB. Gonzalez has the physical profile but 6 seems a bit high for him. Bijan doesn’t give you a major upgrade over Swift+Montgomery, but he does give you a major upgrade over Montgomery+the third string.

I could see Seattle at Detroit as a decent choice for MNF. It’s not uncommon for an NFC North tilt to end up on MNF either, so maybe Detroit vs. GB or Chicago. Detroit could ride the coattails of KC and/or Dallas onto SNF. Maybe against the Chargers on TNF. I’ll guess they get four prime time games on the original schedule (not including Thanksgiving) and maybe flex into one more, especially if there are playoff implications late in the season.

I wonder about this sometimes. There are 32 teams that would willingly pay $35 million a year to a skilled QB and yet there are only a dozen guys in the world who are good enough. Is this a failure of training or is the job really that hard? I think it is the latter.

Okudah was a defensible pick. RAS of 8.97 so not in the Gonzalez range but it would have been hard for Quinn to take Herbert in the circumstances. Shame about his injury history. I like Witherspoon’s attitude, football IQ, and history with Kerby Joseph. But 6 is too high for him. It’s even too high for Gonzalez, who is an athletic freak.

Yeah, it was a bad contract and a bad rebuild. I hope he has a hot streak somewhere along the line so everyone can go out with positive feelings.

Yeah those ABs might make a difference of a few wins next season. Maybe. But then you have a whole league full of players see how you insulted one of the best players in your franchise’s history in his last season when you had almost nothing to gain and they think, “That franchise is pathetic AND disrespectful.”

Tigers are forecast to win 67 games this year. If they cut Cabrera and gave his 350 AB to someone else they might expect to win, what, 70 games? 75 games? What’s the difference. Let the guy take a victory lap. Don’t insult the face of your franchise for over a decade at the end of his hall of fame career for the chance of winning a few more games and still having a losing season.

Kirwan and Miller on NFL Radio were talking up Henson Hooker just now. They say if not for the ACL he would be right in the mix with the other four QBs at the top of the class. They think someone will jump up in the first round to take him. (Didn’t say how high.) It’s very possible AZ trades out of 3. It’s somewhat possible that QBs go 1-4, and within the realm of speculation they could go 1-5. And it’s not out of the question Seattle could pick Carter. So yes bring Anderson in for a visit.

6D chess!

It’s a bad look for Carter.

I agree with this. This is why if we are going to speculate about him — which everybody on this board and all across social media is — we should attribute normal human emotions to him, rather than assuming he is a monster or an animal. Not saying you are doing this, but it would be disingenuous to speculate that the guy is a monster or animal, incapable of normal human emotions, then to tell people to stop speculating that the guy may be dealing with normal human emotions. Finally, I’m not saying the team should or shouldn’t draft him. I just don’t like dog piling.

Well, sort of. He didn’t wreck his car and kill anyone. If that drunk girl hadn’t lost control, that night would have ended with a trip to Waffle House. I totally agree there are red flags and I won’t care if the Lions pick him or don’t pick him. I don’t like seeing people become judge, jury, and executioner, making judgements about his character and sharing them on social media in ways that will impact his future, on the basis of the unfounded speculation that the guy is a monster. In my speculation — which I admit is speculation — I try to assume the guy has normal human emotions and would be impacted by what he’s gone through, regardless of whether he brought it on himself.

Peter King: I think, quietly, the Lions have gotten competitive while building intelligently for the future. Three NFL teams have 12 picks, combined, in the first three rounds of the next three drafts: Houston, Chicago and Detroit. Houston and Chicago have miles to go before they sleep. Detroit, on the verge of serious contention, picks sixth, 18th, 48th, 55th and 81st this year—a league-high five picks in the first 2.5 rounds. GM Brad Holmes has done an excellent job looking to the future while stocking his team for today. If Jared Goff is the answer at quarterback, the Lions will be consistently dangerous for the first time in some time.

Hey, we are all adjacent to stupidity and recklessness by posting here. 😂

He didn’t work out at the combine and wasn’t planning to. Then he got charged and a media circus started around him. Is it possible that a 21 year old kid could go through criminal charges and a media circus related to a tragedy he was involved in and be totally unfazed by it? I guess. But to assume he was totally unfazed by it and it could not have had any possible impact on his state of mind is basically to assume that he is devoid of normal human emotions. That he’s a monster or an animal. I don’t think that’s a fair assumption to make. But lots of people are making it.

This is reasonable. I’m not saying the guy doesn’t have red flags. He does. But not every red flag is the same. OTOH Parcells said when you make exceptions you can end up with a locker room full of them.

Yes it is complete speculation. But it is not out of the realm of possibility that a person could feel guilt and sadness after being part of such a tragic event. In fact, if a person did not feel guilt and sadness after being part of such a tragic event they would be somehow inhuman. So yes, total speculation, based on years of observation of the human condition.

Charles Rogers had a drug problem. Titus Young had psychiatric problems. As far as we know Jalen Carter drives too fast and may be depressed over his connection with a fatal car crash — in which he was not the driver and he did not collide with the other vehicle. Not every red flag is the same.

Brad Hopkins and Bill Lekas from Sirius XM NFL radio have Carter going 6 to Detroit.

I listened to the first ten minutes. I don’t know what to make of it.

The guy has some red flags but I see a lot of people jumping to conclusion and even convictions without having very much evidence. If Carter is off the Lions draft board that is fine with me. If he’s not off it yet, I feel confident that Holmes and Campbell, and almost certainly Sheila and Spielman, will do all the digging and interviewing they can. If they get comfortable with him, I’ll be ok with it. If they find more character concerns, or can’t resolve what’s already out there, they’ll move on and I’ll be ok with it.

Maybe I haven’t followed closely enough but I have heard mixed reports on leaving the scene. Also, I’m not a lawyer but I’m not sure that even if he did leave the scene of this accident that he would be guilty of a crime. He was not in the car with the decedents and his car (to the best of my knowledge) did not impact theirs or otherwise cause their accident. Again, he may be guilty of a lot of things here, and some of them may even be crimes. But what I’ve heard points to tragic immaturity. This may or may not disqualify him but in my mind what I know does not disqualify him.