Jason_R

Tigers are forecast to win 67 games this year. If they cut Cabrera and gave his 350 AB to someone else they might expect to win, what, 70 games? 75 games? What’s the difference. Let the guy take a victory lap. Don’t insult the face of your franchise for over a decade at the end of his hall of fame career for the chance of winning a few more games and still having a losing season.

Kirwan and Miller on NFL Radio were talking up Henson Hooker just now. They say if not for the ACL he would be right in the mix with the other four QBs at the top of the class. They think someone will jump up in the first round to take him. (Didn’t say how high.) It’s very possible AZ trades out of 3. It’s somewhat possible that QBs go 1-4, and within the realm of speculation they could go 1-5. And it’s not out of the question Seattle could pick Carter. So yes bring Anderson in for a visit.

6D chess!

It’s a bad look for Carter.

I agree with this. This is why if we are going to speculate about him — which everybody on this board and all across social media is — we should attribute normal human emotions to him, rather than assuming he is a monster or an animal. Not saying you are doing this, but it would be disingenuous to speculate that the guy is a monster or animal, incapable of normal human emotions, then to tell people to stop speculating that the guy may be dealing with normal human emotions. Finally, I’m not saying the team should or shouldn’t draft him. I just don’t like dog piling.

Well, sort of. He didn’t wreck his car and kill anyone. If that drunk girl hadn’t lost control, that night would have ended with a trip to Waffle House. I totally agree there are red flags and I won’t care if the Lions pick him or don’t pick him. I don’t like seeing people become judge, jury, and executioner, making judgements about his character and sharing them on social media in ways that will impact his future, on the basis of the unfounded speculation that the guy is a monster. In my speculation — which I admit is speculation — I try to assume the guy has normal human emotions and would be impacted by what he’s gone through, regardless of whether he brought it on himself.

Peter King: I think, quietly, the Lions have gotten competitive while building intelligently for the future. Three NFL teams have 12 picks, combined, in the first three rounds of the next three drafts: Houston, Chicago and Detroit. Houston and Chicago have miles to go before they sleep. Detroit, on the verge of serious contention, picks sixth, 18th, 48th, 55th and 81st this year—a league-high five picks in the first 2.5 rounds. GM Brad Holmes has done an excellent job looking to the future while stocking his team for today. If Jared Goff is the answer at quarterback, the Lions will be consistently dangerous for the first time in some time.

Hey, we are all adjacent to stupidity and recklessness by posting here. 😂

He didn’t work out at the combine and wasn’t planning to. Then he got charged and a media circus started around him. Is it possible that a 21 year old kid could go through criminal charges and a media circus related to a tragedy he was involved in and be totally unfazed by it? I guess. But to assume he was totally unfazed by it and it could not have had any possible impact on his state of mind is basically to assume that he is devoid of normal human emotions. That he’s a monster or an animal. I don’t think that’s a fair assumption to make. But lots of people are making it.

This is reasonable. I’m not saying the guy doesn’t have red flags. He does. But not every red flag is the same. OTOH Parcells said when you make exceptions you can end up with a locker room full of them.

Yes it is complete speculation. But it is not out of the realm of possibility that a person could feel guilt and sadness after being part of such a tragic event. In fact, if a person did not feel guilt and sadness after being part of such a tragic event they would be somehow inhuman. So yes, total speculation, based on years of observation of the human condition.

Charles Rogers had a drug problem. Titus Young had psychiatric problems. As far as we know Jalen Carter drives too fast and may be depressed over his connection with a fatal car crash — in which he was not the driver and he did not collide with the other vehicle. Not every red flag is the same.

Brad Hopkins and Bill Lekas from Sirius XM NFL radio have Carter going 6 to Detroit.

I listened to the first ten minutes. I don’t know what to make of it.

The guy has some red flags but I see a lot of people jumping to conclusion and even convictions without having very much evidence. If Carter is off the Lions draft board that is fine with me. If he’s not off it yet, I feel confident that Holmes and Campbell, and almost certainly Sheila and Spielman, will do all the digging and interviewing they can. If they get comfortable with him, I’ll be ok with it. If they find more character concerns, or can’t resolve what’s already out there, they’ll move on and I’ll be ok with it.

Maybe I haven’t followed closely enough but I have heard mixed reports on leaving the scene. Also, I’m not a lawyer but I’m not sure that even if he did leave the scene of this accident that he would be guilty of a crime. He was not in the car with the decedents and his car (to the best of my knowledge) did not impact theirs or otherwise cause their accident. Again, he may be guilty of a lot of things here, and some of them may even be crimes. But what I’ve heard points to tragic immaturity. This may or may not disqualify him but in my mind what I know does not disqualify him.

I’m still not sure if he did anything I would consider “bad.” Yes, he may have been immature. Yes, there may be some unreported incidents. Yes, he was not in great shape for his workout. Yes, all these are red flags. But I haven’t heard anything yet that makes me think he shouldn’t be on the draft board. Maybe he just needs some father figures and big brothers to keep him focused.

Well, it turned out better for everyone in the end. Except Jamaal. It turned out better for everyone but him.

Here is Birkett relating the case for Detroit being able to rehabilitate Carter: https://www.motownlions.com/2023/03/31/detroit-lions-drafting-jalen-carter-one-of-the-few-teams-where-it-could-be-a-home-run/

People even 4D chess is not good enough. We need our franchise to play at least 6D chess.

Moving the Chains from SiriusXM NFL Radio is having its mock draft. Pat Kirwan had the Lions taking Tyree Wilson at 6 and Joey Porter at 18. I could be content with this. On Wilson, he said he would be an upgrade over Cominsky (“a lunch pail guy”) and give Hutch a bookend. Said Wilson would play at 280 and there aren’t a lot of guys that big with his athleticism. Cited 40+ plays behind the LOS in last 23 games. Also said Carter was still on the board here but he wouldn’t take him at 6.

He might have been able to do it if he had an agent.

Yes, he’s the sneaky one. I could kind of see Holmes sprinting up and saying we are going to get 1800+ yards from scrimmage and 15 TDs a season from this guy for five years.

I just don’t see the guy who Holmes will run to the podium to pick at 6. Maybe Gonzalez merits a brisk walk at 6, but not a run. Carter? He’ll be walking on eggshells. His first draft everyone was hoping Sewell would drop. Last year it was Hutch. This year he’ll have a big decision.