Jason_R

Does Stafford now have more rushing yards in this game than the Lions had against Dallas? 😂

That’s the thing about starting the season at rock bottom.

Why don’t all these spoiled NFL players just accept that they aren’t playing for their own success, integrity, and pride, they are playing for the fans who want to win draft night. Those jerks. Wanting to win for themselves and their teammates. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Missed the game today but watched highlights. Campbell was responsible for some of the most exciting and effective play calling that we've ever seen as Lions fans. Do we really want him to give it up?

Is Kenny Pickett all that and a bag of potato chips? Or is he just the QB that is getting pumped this year? I see Walter Football mocking him to the Lions, and I don't mind the thought of picking up the future at QB and WR in round one. Would give the team a year to know what they have waiting in the wings before Goff's dead money number comes way down.

Taking a QB every year until you find one is the definition of NFL purgatory.

Yes but wait until the Interstellar list comes out. 🥸

"Hey you morans dont you know we have nothing to play for except draft position? We could of lost this game and got a better player than some of y'all are and then we could of cut a couple of you but you had to ruin our draft position by going out and playing hard and as a team. What is wrong with you you selfish ********? You're all gonna run the hill tomorrow."

Players want to compete for Darrell Bevell.

JRM is in the middle of things today.

Best play by a Lions DB this season? Wow.

But anyway, when is Dan Campbell going to give up the play calling? I’m tired of seeing scrub RBs rush for 25 on 3rd and 5 and being up 17-0 on a playoff team when we should be tanking.

That was a big time sack on one of the most elusive QBs in the NFL.

Thank you. Campbell knows he has Goff for this season and next. He also knows Goff took a team to a Super Bowl... or maybe a team took Goff to the Super Bowl, but at least Goff held up his end of the bargain. Campbell needs to figure out whether they have to spend draft capital on a QB or whether they can get away with using their 1sts on defensive difference makers. He can't afford to have that assessment clouded by an OC that is working his own agenda.

It is not a realistic option for Campbell to take away play calling from Lynn then give it to another coach during the same season. This would create chaos among the coaching staff. As it is, Campbell decided that Lynn was not getting it done and took the job himself. Lynn may not like it, but at least Campbell was decisive. Lynn will keep his mouth shut so as not to get painted as selfish and hinder his job search. But if Campbell were to give play calling to someone else this season, every guy on the staff who thinks he should be calling plays would be lobbying for the role, and leaking to the media about the other guys. OMG it would be a massive disaster. It is worth noting that right now even Lynn is not bitching to the press. The most he has said is that he doesn't like it. That's it. There is dissension in a 1-11-1 locker room. This must be some kind of a record. And it is precisely because Campbell has NOT followed the advice of this board. And anyway, it is likely that Campbell took play calling because he wants to work closely with Goff to see what he can do and what he can't do. With Lynn or another OC in the middle, Campbell is not going to get immediate feedback from Goff. Now, they will watch tape together and Goff will tell Campbell why something worked or why it didn't, and it won't be Lynn or someone else saying the plays are great but Goff sucks.

Was that from the preseason? 😉

The realistic options this season are give the playcalling back to Lynn or let Campbell keep it. A bunch of people are knee jerk saying Campbell should give the play calling back. And yet the offense is working better with him calling the plays. Him retaining the playcalling is not a hard decision, and it shouldn’t be controversial to anyone paying attention. Next season is another story. I would prefer for him not to call plays because he still has a lot to learn. But if Campbell ends up calling the plays next season, he won’t be the only NFL head coach to do so. PS: If you are going to accuse someone of “poor logic,” don’t make up fake stats out of thin air to try to illustrate your point. A stunt like that only has a 4% chance of not looking hacky.

Interesting point. I’ll give it the thought it deserves.

Yes he is more successful at it than the previous guy was, so he needs to give it up. I follow you.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2021/12/08/lions-qb-jared-goff-nfc-offensive-player-week/6430847001/ Jared Goff named NFC Offensive Player of the Week. But Campbell needs to give up play calling.

Are we gonna see Brady v Belichick in the Super Bowl this year?

It reflects poorly on Lynn that his playcalling duties were taken away. Did he not honor Campbell’s demands about running the ball? Did he get off on the wrong foot with Goff? It also reflects well on Campbell that Lynn got outscored by an average of over 11 ppg as a play caller but under Campbell they have been outscored by a total of only two points in four games (0.5 ppg)… and in one of those games the team started David Blough. There is no comparison, and no Campbell should not give back playcalling duties That is literally crazy talk Yeah Lynn came here to rehabilitate himself but went off the reservation. Maybe he was calling games for his own interests and not according to Campbell’s orders. He got himself demoted as a result and now he’ll have to take a HC job in college if he wants that role again.

Seriously? The guy was a head coach last year who was 50/50 to get retained or get fired. An OC role is a backward step for him. Nobody paying attention would or should have expected that Lynn was any more than a one year stopgap coach to help stabilize Campbell before going to his next stop. When he (according to rumors) started butting heads with the QB — and getting bad results with him — he became expendable to Campbell. Also, note that Goff, under Campbell, has actually looked average and not awful like he did when Lynn was calling plays.

Evidently the narrative has now been set: Campbell is bad at clock management. Every decision he makes from here on out will be another data point to demonstrate that he is bad at clock management. Even if his decision works out, it will be attributed to luck or a mistake by the other coach. He will never again make a decision about managing the clock that the hive mind deems to be good.

Hats off to Dan Campbell. Got one on the board despite multiple miscues by Goff. Running game is no longer a liability even though their All Pro center is out for the season. They still have massive holes in their roster but Campbell got them in the W column.