NYLion

Damn, my bad. I think I just blocked that trade out of my memory. I think that was a fine trade too to get Bagley off the team for one and, two, to get his extra year contract off the books. Nothing groundbreaking but getting rid of these one dimensional defensively deficient players (The Team Ball Killer B's) can only be a good thing. On the other hand, getting Bagley in the first place and then doubling down on stupidity by paying him is another story.

It was a good trade (getting rid of B&B in itself was good) but, yeah, Monty's rotations are baffling.

No chance IMO. Can't see Holmes giving max money to an aging player at any position. Jones is amazing no doubt but he's going to be 30 when the season starts, don't see Holmes being in the market for him. That would be a true "all in" move.

I also think this is a better Pistons team post-ASB with more young hungry two way players and less old chuckers on the roster so the overall season record likely won't be indicative of the level of team they have going into the offseason. They are far off from even being a play-in team as of now but are certainly better than 9-49 bad.

What consistency? So DiVincenzo can barrel into Ausar but then Duren gets called for jumping straight up as Hart barrels into him? How is that consistent? The Pistons are a deservedly bad team but they've getting the **** end of calls a lot this season.

Ausar got bodychecked, possession or not. It's a loose ball foul, obvious as a call gets. Even the Knicks announcers were saying that it was a missed call.

Pistons got robbed at the end but wins and losses don't matter much so whatever. Positive signs from Cade, Grimes, Fontecchio is all that matters. Duren needs to be better on the defensive boards.

They're like the Cowboys. Always talked about as if they're some model franchise, always getting hype year after year because they're a "glamour" franchise but haven't actually done anything worth a **** in the last 30 years.

Holmes doesn't give an F about anybody's mock draft, Holmes doesn't give an F about drafting for need or positional importance. He's in the market for good football players who fit their culture regardless of position. Of course there's a limit to that (I don't see him drafting the best QB available in the 1st round for instance) but, generally, do NOT expect him to ride with the consensus. Also, I would not expect any big long term commitments in free agency regardless of cap space. We could see a mid level guy like Sutton type of deal again but for those expecting Chris Jones, or Danielle Hunter or even a guy like Sneed from KC, I don't see it.

When James The Shill Edwards III is criticizing you, you know you're doing an awful job... https://theathletic.com/5294273/2024/02/23/pistons-loss-pacers-monty-williams-rotation/

That's exactly why I wanted them to sign Goff to an extension sooner. I don't think the rising cap will make a massive difference (he would have gotten $45m+ even if signed earlier) but every dollar counts and now Goff will be $50m+.

Monty is pure sabotage. This guy is just collecting fat paychecks, he had no interest in coaching this year until pathetic Gores begged him countless times to coach his poverty franchise so, lo and behold, he still has no interest in coaching even though he's getting paid many fat stacks to do so. Yeah the roster has obvious flaws but this coach has gotten the least out of them and even less than that. I could go down a long list of errors from his asinine rotations, to his even more asinine system, to starting Killian for however many games to dicking around Ausar and Sasser with their minutes, to benching Ivey in favor of Killian, to deploying Cade as if he's Luka Doncic to.... well, you get the idea. He's a bum and needs to go. Gores could give him his sweet buyout payment then let the door hit his ass on the way out.

This franchise is doomed, I had a glimmer of hope after that nice 3 game stretch against a fully healthy Kings team, the Portland comeback and pushing the fully healthy Clippers to the brink but it's been a whole lot of WTF since then. I also had a glimmer of hope about the deadline acquisitions and Grimes can't even get on the court now. Poverty franchise

I'm actually looking forward to Pistons games now, it's an odd feeling. I was also one of the few, I think, that liked what Weaver did at the deadline. Got rid of the old one dimensional chuckers and brought in guys that are younger, energetic and should play more of a team game. Interested to see how the pieces fit.

Losing Jonah is not going to **** up the offensive line. He is NOT the engine of that line, the tackles and Ragnow have been. Glasgow was better than Jonah last season for long stretches, Awosika looked solid too. There's also the draft. Ragnow has missed 3 total games the last 2 seasons so... You talk about Frank missing a bunch of games yet Jonah was the one who has been absent the most, missing 9 games to Ragnow's 3 and that's not including the playoffs when he was out of the lineup against SF. You can get angry and combative all you want but the reality is that quality players get paid on the free agent market, overpays happen all the time. Laken Tomlinson just got 3 years $40m, you don't think Jonah could get that on the open market? It's possible that he won't but you can't simply just dismiss the possibility just because YOU say so. The free agent market has proven that somebody could very well pay him top 10 guard money. We'll just agree to disagree. You think the line will fall apart without him, I don't. If he comes back at a discounted rate then I'm all for re-signing him but if he commands top 10 guard money then I'm letting him walk. I think it's 50/50.

I think he'll get more on the open market and the Lions can't afford to sign a guard for top 10 guard money, which is what Jonah will likely get, with Ragnow and Decker getting top dollar and Sewell soon to be the highest paid tackle in the league (and rightfully so). I thought the offensive line looked fine with Jonah out. Re-sign Glasgow at a reasonable rate and have a rotation of young guys (Awoslka, Sorsdal, draft pick) at the other guard spot and sign a vet for depth.

That would be a very unHolmeslike move and considering that this draft is in Detroit even less of a chance that they trade the pick for a win now solution. Plus, Bosa is never healthy. I don't see a move for Reddick either for that matter. I just can't see Holmes abandoning his plan and selling off futures for immediate help and/or making free agent splashes with big long term contracts like for Chris Jones or Hunter for example. Holmes seems like a man that's very strong with his convictions so I see more focus on drafting and developing, re-signing his own guys and taking chances on bargain bin free agents with short term deals. Could see Moseley and/or CJGJ back on 1 year prove it deals, for example.

This team is a lot of fun to watch right now, the fact that Killian was blocking Sasser for this long is a basketball crime. I'm really glad that Weaver traded B and B and brought in those younger more well rounded guys, looking forward to seeing how they fit in.

I'm good with it. Get rid of these older one dimensional shooters for younger more well rounded shooters. Apparently Grimes was inconsistent shooting this season but he's traditionally been a good shooter so I like this deal overall.

I'll say it again, the Pistons have looked better without Cade and it's a growing sample size of this. The offense flows a lot better without him and with Ivey and then Sasser at the control. I blame Monty not Cade for this btw. Once Monty stops deploying Cade as if he's Luka, he and the Pistons will be better off for it. Cade's role is likely to be best maximized off ball as a secondary ballhandler. He's just not a good enough decision maker/playmaker to offset the lack of athleticism, to go along with a mediocre 3 point shot.

And now Weaver gives Morris away for a bag of peanuts. Yeah you want to give Sasser minutes but they could have done that with Morris and in fact, Morris would have been the perfect vet for him to play off of. Just get rid of Killian if you want to clear up roster space, there....easy.

Underrated post

I was reading on another board that Jazz fans really like him fwiw and apparently there were a lot of suitors so this could be a decent addition. Seems like a bit of an overpay to add a very high 2nd (just about a late 1st) in addition to Knox for him but this draft is trash anyway so why the hell not. Maybe they have something with this guy.

There's no way that you get Goff, Hunter and J. Reynolds for that cheap. Those numbers aren't even close IMO. Even old Gilmore will probably get more than that coming off his best season in a while. I also think Ra will get north of $100m on a 4 year deal.

The Reynolds drops had nothing to do with the Niners talent. Those two drops were massive gamechangers. I fully believe that if Reynolds catches that first 4th down, the Lions win this game and probably not by an insignificant margin. The 3rd and 10 drop he was WIDE open and Goff put it right into his chest, that had nothing to do with talent, and that could have stemmed the momentum at 24-24 then who knows. The Gibbs fumble was him going the wrong way on the handoff and losing full grip of the ball, that was a mental error not a lack of talent. One can argue that Vildor not making that catch was due to lack of talent at the position so that one I'd agree on.The Niners made some plays after the gifts and they're the more talented team on paper but the Lions coughed this one up. The Niners got really lucky that the Lions choked. In any event, what's done is done so we'll see how Holmes plugs the holes this offseason because this was a golden opportunity missed by the Lions with a team that just seemed to have destiny on their side with a fairly undermanned roster compared to The Final 4 teams at least. It's going to get harder next season, the division isn't soft anymore and the schedule, on paper, looks tougher so hopefully the Lions are up to the challenge.