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The French are assholes. Sorry @buddha
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Yeah, you need to make the most of your draft picks which Weaver struck out with in his first draft although I'd say that Stewart is fine for a #16 pick while Presti has been a drafting savant for the most part. With that said, he had a Paul George to dangle for a major return just as Orlando had with Vucevic and Gordon, Houston with Harden, San Antonio with Murray, Utah with Mitchell and Gobert etc. Then again, you need to draft and develop well to turn these guys into assets but still... Weaver was a victim of the previous regimes failures, speak of Mitchell for example.
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This is the main reason why teams like OKC and Orlando are ahead of the Pistons. These guys had star players to dangle as assets while Weaver was handed a broken Blake Griffin that he had to wait a year to buy out. Must have been nice for Presti and Orlando GM not to mention Houston and San Antonio who sold off their stars for a bundle of futures. Weaver turned Grant into Duren which is the extent of his chest of real assets.
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I don't even think he was "bad" in the other games, seemed to do a lot of good things out there from what I saw, it was just a matter of the shot not falling.
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I don't see it, Ausar is a far better playmaker than Allen was. Even if his 3 pointer never comes around, he has a higher floor than Allen because he has creation skills. I wouldn't say "broke" necessarily but he certainly doesn't have a smooth stroke and the shot is pretty flat so I'm also skeptical that he ever becomes an above average 3 point shooter.
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Ausar has everything in the toolkit outside of the 3 pointer, sort of like a Herb Jones type which is a very valuable player, a better playmaking Herb Jones. If he develops a 3 point shot, he has All Star potential.
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Whether Reid would start with the Pistons or not is irrelevant in contract negotiations. The reality is that Minny is paying him to come off the bench while the Pistons are paying Stewart to start, for now. Because Stewart has elevated minutes, he has pretty much double the rebounds so I'm sure that also plays a role as well. Regardless, as we agree on, the difference between the contracts is negligible really especially keeping in mind that the Stewart contract has a 4th year team option so it's essentially a 3 year $45m contract when you take out the bonus structure.
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Reid is a bench player for the Wolves while Stew is the starter here for better or worse, different roles, and the AAV is fairly equal (14 v. 16m), plus Stewart's contract kicks in a year later when the cap will be higher. It's a fair deal, nothing to celebrate but nothing to groan about either IMO.
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$43m for FVV!!!! I was dismayed at the Harris trade at first and still think the Pistons should have squeezed more value out of that contract but it's a good day for the Pistons because they didn't tie themselves to any ridiculous contract for players that aren't high impact guys.
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A 32 year old $19m shooter who gets injured all the time. He just used up most of the cap space on a guy who scored 7ppg last season. Unless Bojan is being dealt to recoup that cap space, I'm not sure what the plan is. He basically did the Nets the favor of freeing them of a big contract for nothing basically.
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Just saw this pop up on my phone and am utterly confused. Weaver did the Nets a big favor for....reasons? Unless this is a precursor to a Bojan trade, this doesn't make any sense.
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Sure but I would assume that a perennial 18-20ppg player has more value around the league than a bench sparkplug. With that said, I'm not sure the Pistons have any real interest in trading him anyway.
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Bogdanovich has a much better mid range game than Robinson. It's hard to gauge what his value is because there's no real rumors of any offers for him or that the Pistons even had him on the market. I wouldn't say his value is the same as when the Pistons picked him up because he had a career year last season so I'm sure he holds at least some value to a contender.
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It's not just a conjecture or two. I named three instances (Ausar, Wiseman and Bagley) when their moves were telegraphed ahead of time. Hell, Weaver pretty much gave away his draft strategy saying "I'm not trying to bunt, I'm swinging for the fences", we all kind of figured that meant Ausar at that moment. I don't know if this will apply to their RFA chasing or not but you can connect the dots to see that chasing Cam Johnson isn't far fetched.
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You said that the Pistons front office is notoriously tight-lipped about their intentions so not to believe any of the rumors but that's not true based on the examples I gave. No RFAs but some of their moves have been telegraphed ahead of time. They very well might have had interest in Ayton before the draft (which is when those rumors floated out there) then they traded for Duren and the rumors died out. Who knows if what's really going on behind the scenes but there's many reasons to believe that the Pistons will pursue Cam Johnson. As I mentioned before, they now have the cap space to make that move, the Monty Williams connection and their biggest need he'd fill.
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I wouldn't say that necessarily. The Ausar pick was telegraphed a few days before the draft, we knew for a while that Weaver was hot for Bagley and then Wiseman before he dealt for them. There's been a few trades/signings that were out of the blue but there's been stuff floated out there that came to fruition. I think Cam Johnson is a natural connection. They now have the cap space to make a move like this, the Monty Williams connection and the obvious need for a 3 and D wing. Not saying that I want this to happen but I think there's a good chance that they will pursue him.
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That's probably the smart move (Barnes, not so much DiVincenzo) but it seems like the Pistons are all in on Cam Johnson. I think it's unlikely that they land him anyway. I also saw a rumor of Caris LeVert being their fallback plan. Not sure I understand that one, he's not great defensively as far as I remember and has historically been a poor shooter.
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It's definitely not sustainable, he was pacing for the all time sacks record, but if you watch his film and really break it down, he made plays in a variety of ways which makes me think that at least his pass rushing ability is legit. Whether or not he becomes more than just a 3rd down NASCAR package specialist remains to be seen but what we saw last year even in a one dimensional capacity was incredible. Honestly, his upside is enormous when you see how many moves he actually has, very Von Miller-esque.
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I think part of the reason why Sewell isn't higher is because he hasn't excelled at left tackle yet. I believe Darrisaw played the left side so he gets the bump up. That was just a beast of a draft though so hard to really complain about the rankings. That class could wind up with 10 Hall of Famers potentially. Speak about how good Holmes drafting is, and I know it's early, but it could be argued that he pulled three 1st rounders in a 2022 re-draft with Hutch, Houston and Joseph. Rodrigo goes a lot higher too. The man is a drafting savant.
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I wonder if Weaver plans on going the sign and trade route to clear some of the clutter off the roster so he can secure Johnson or if he just submits the offer sheet and takes a chance on the Nets matching. I'm kind of hoping for the former if the Nets are miraculously interested in Wiseman or Bagley. It would probably take Stewart+ I'd imagine and I don't see Weaver being interested in that.
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We've talked about this before but he's the only Piston outside of Burks that can shoot at a high level. Unless they play on bringing in a shooter in free agency, they kind of have to keep him. Plus, by all accounts, Weaver sees him as the vet leader/key player on this team so I'm not sure if he's even on the market.
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They don't have to go big in free agency or trade but they need some quality vets, more Bogey types but ones that play defense and are younger. Bruce Brown is a young vet that shouldn't break the bank. Correct the mistake of letting him go in the first place and bring him in. I think the Pistons are beyond the "sin eating" stage although I wonder if taking on somebody like Tim Hardaway Jr. might be of interest if Dallas wants to chase a big fish.
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Not saying I would have done this (and who knows what "stuff" is and whose 2025 pick that was and protections etc.) but lets assume that Sasser is there at 28 and the 2025 pick was Utah's. Would you take Thompson+Sasser or Hendricks+Sasser+31+Utah 2025 1st? Actually, I just talked myself into taking that trade. The Ausar pick better be a homerun because that's a tough trade package to turn down IMO.
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Most of that other stuff is noise. The bolded is the key to everything really. They signed Williams to a looong term deal so I'm not sure if the timeline to playoff contention is that short. They should at least be making a run at the 7th-8th seed in '24-'25 or else something has gone really wrong.
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He was balling in the NCAA tournament. Could be an interesting signing.
