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Even though the offense is lacking and frustrating at times, Cade has had a really nice half on defense.

That was a knock on him coming out of college. Not sure if it is an effort issue or a quickness issue. Obviously, he is lightning in transition so you would think he would have at least decent lateral quickness.

Some nice interior defense by Stewart the last few minutes.

I was pretty hopeful about Stewart developing a three point shot last year that would allow him to be a good starter. If it happens, it happens. But I think we are to the point where he is a better fit as an energy guy off the bench.

Who is Duren out there with? Looks like he is the only one who has a chance of getting a rebound.

Big surprise...Cade has foul trouble already.

So far, pretty much what I expected. I don't think much of Casey and you combine that with youth and mediocre talent and you got trouble. Now would be a good time for Cade to show the aggression that was talked about earlier.

I am pretty pessimistic about this season. Be nice if the Pistons, and Cade, got off to a good start tonight. I am little bit worried the Pistons might have had the #1 pick in a year when the obvious choice ends up not having as much upside as everybody thought.

I enjoy watching Ivey play the point. Just so explosive in the open court when he gets the ball. Actually a little bit like Morant as a player. There is a ton of potential with Ivey and Cade as a backcourt combo.

Maybe not. But do other franchises keep coaches in the 20-25 win range four seasons in a row? I would guess it is almost unheard for a coach to keep their job when the team is performing at that level. And that could be what we are staring at after this year.

My worry is Cade. You can say preseason does not mean anything and that is true for some things but not every thing. Cade had turnover and foul issues last year and was not exactly lighting it up from three his rookie season. When he has those same issues in the preseason, I think it is justifiable to be concerned about his preseason play. If this team is going to make any substantial gains, they need Cade to make a big leap.

If we are one of the worst teams again this season, I don't see how ownership can retain him. That would be four years in a row the Pistons are one of the worst teams in NBA.

Jaden Ivey looks really, really, good. I knew we needed some explosiveness on this team but I didn't realize just how much until watching Ivey out there with Cade and Saddiq. I really like Keegan Murry as well but I think Ivey fills a much bigger hole for us.

I refuse to accept Hutch is a bust until the Lions start using him like Michigan used him in 2021. And his struggles are being accentuated by our crappy defense overall. The Lions have 7 sacks on the year. Only Arizona and LV are worse with 6 and 5.

Haase seems like a guy you keep around for where you need him most. Could end up that is cacher. Could end up that is the outfield. Could be he is just a platoon at DH. Could be a backup plan for Torkelson at first base. Probably best not to pigeonhole him into one role this offseason and just let the chips fall where they may.

I don't really want Tork at third, especially if he is showing promise as a first baseman. The last thing we need is him worrying about his defense at third base next year. I have been on the side of letting Candelario go. But with a new hitting coach, I could probably get on board with giving him a shot to see if he can find his 2021 form. We have to have a decent backup plan though if he comes out next April and looks like the same player he was this year. Basically, we are going to have to take some chances this offseason and he is one of the few guys we can take a chance with that's actually had a pretty successful full season in the majors.

The score means nothing. Individual performances MIGHT mean something. Hoping we see somebody has improved a lot.

I agree. I am still frustrated with the way the Lions are using him and hoping we see something different next week. His first and second sacks against Washington came on just pure effort and not giving up on a play. That is prototypical Hutchinson and he will get more sacks than most that way. The third sack was a stunt. But for the Lions to to really maximize his potential, they are going to have to use him more like Michigan used him last year.

If he gets this amount of minutes, I think we will know within a few preseason games if Cade has made any kind of big leap from year one to year two. We are seeing the same issues tonight we are saw last year. It's only one game but still not an encouraging sign.

Bummer for the starters to get blown out the first preseason game. It happens in the NBA but it sucks to see it right away when you are excited to see your team kickoff a new season.

I would say Bey is struggling with his decision making more than anything. He needs to play more like Bogdanovic and instead tries to play like Cade.

Looking for some improvement from players in the first preseason game tonight against the Knicks. Cade looks a lot stronger but not seeing anything different in his game early. Ivey looks great. If you wondered if his explosiveness would stand out against the best athletes in the world, I think you have your answer already. Really glad Killian is no longer in the starting lineup.

I think it's fair to arbitrarily single out the second round picks as a problem. Sure, we hit on some picks after that but so do other teams. The thing that separates the Lions is the second round pick, which theoretically should be a higher probability success player. If you take the time to prove that over a 5-10 year period, the Lions are as successful as any other team rounds 2-7, then you can make the argument we shouldn't be discussing the second round issue. But I have not seen that argument yet.

I would put Torkelson in a different category than our disappointments. Everybody in baseball thought he was a top prospect and while top prospects often miss, we are only one year removed from that status. Besides trying to find somebody to help him reach that potential, the Tigers have a tough decision what to do with first base next year. You can pencil him in at first base and risk having some of the worst production at a premium hitting position. You can send him to AAA but it doesn't feel like he has a lot to gain from going there at this point. You can try and upgrade by signing a veteran on a short contract but then you block him. Ultimately, I think we are stuck rolling the dice with him next year. It's probably worth getting Haase some work at first base in the offseason though so you have a backup option.

I don't know what you can do midseason with this collection of talent. They better hope Paschal is an immediate impact player.