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I just want to see a couple games where Ivey says f it and starts attacking every possession to draw fouls. I’ve kind of had it with Cade. I realize he is probably our best player but when you lose 21 strait and he is your go to guy, I’m thinking he is not as valuable as his stats would lead you to believe.

Probably what happens when the coach plays games with players minutes and roles.

I can't accept the Pistons are doomed as long as Gores owns the team because that is likely the rest of my life. Maybe we can get lucky with the next GM.

Gores really is at the root of this. I don’t know how a fan base gets rid of an owner but everything about him screams losing organization.

I don’t know who was clamoring for Livers but he has never been good. The other guys at least belong on an nba roster but somehow look like they don’t with Monty coaching them. We are bad but I think being historically bad falls on the coach.

Bogey is a nice player. Just going to take time to round into form. Monty might ruin him though. Livers does really suck.

Starting to get worried we might lose 30 strait. This is bad. I don't know what Monty did to this team but even the worst constructed NBA roster should be more competitive than this.

Cade played nearly a flawless half and then made two lazy passes late that led to his only two turnovers of the first half. Seems like an abnormal number of his turnovers are those cross court passes that get picked off. Still, nice to see him and Bojan sharing the load on offense and not have to watch Cade constantly fail trying to carry this team.

Amazing how much more pleasant it is to watch the Pistons play offense with Bojan out there. He takes a lot of pressure off Cade and Cade does not hesitate to defer to him and let him take over some of the playmaking. Might not make much of a difference in the win/loss column but at least they are tolerable to watch.

Killian, Livers, and Stewart all starting. Gross. I do like moving Cade off the ball more. Been calling for that for awhile. I just don't think the Pistons will ever make a big leap with Cade as their point guard. Killian is obviously not the answer either but at least it might get Cade off the ball a bit more.

Still love Iveys talent on offense. When we get to crunch time, if the game is still close, please give him some possessions and not just Cade.

Man, these courts that I have been seeing on tv lately are ugly.

Hopefully the Pistons start Bojan and Ausar together. Kind of looking forward to seeing what that looks like.

I would say blitzing makes more sense with a bad defense than a good defense because bad defenses have to take more chances. Kind of like Campbell going for it on 4th down deep in Lions territory. Bad defenses force coaches to take more risks.

I would think Iveys sample size is small enough that it would level a bit if he handled the ball more. Either way, turnovers are an issue for both starting guards based on their career numbers. With Cade, I would venture a guess it’s ball handling and decision making. With Ivey, I would venture a guess it’s mostly decision making.

I know Ivey isn’t perfect but really want to see him get some crunch time possessions.

Got a chance to win this one. Maybe try to stay away from the Cade hero ball.

Hopefully Gores has enough sense to move on from Weaver after the season.

If Monty won't play Ivey heavy minutes because of his defense, what's he going to do with Bojan?

The honeymoon phase for Monty certainly didn't last long.

We might not have playoff caliber talent but I don't think we 2-10 caliber talent either. Something is wrong with this organization from the top down.

If Monty wants to help Cade, maybe find a point guard that can run the offense.

I do think some of Cade's problems would be solved if we just didn't lean so heavily on him as the point guard. He won't get the 8-10 assist per game but the turnovers would go down and I personally think the shooting would improve. Cade expends a tremendous amount of energy trying to carry the offense as a point guard, more so than other guys because he is not that athletic for an NBA player.

I think the Pistons are going to have a hard time moving forward as long as they view Cade as their franchise savior.

I didn’t watch the game but know exactly what you mean because it’s been the same story basically every game. At some point, it’s more on the coaching than it is on Cade for putting so much emphasis on him running the point. Maybe they think it’s part of his growth and he needs to figure it out. I’m skeptical of that. I believe long term, the Pistons need a guy that is going to be the point guard to handle a large share of the point guard duties next to Cade.