gehringer_2

do the Tigers at some point develop a rep for being abusive to players by signing so many guys with little or no intention to even given them a serious look?

right - but that is what is so dumb - it *should* not make sense for it make sense for UCLA to be in the B10 but not a Cal. Imagine you were starting major league baseball from scratch and you decided Pittsburg and Cincy and Det didn't have the revenue to play in the sandbox that NYC and LA did, but you were going to play a chunk of your games against games against those teams anyway even though they had to cobble together some secondary level league for themselves. It's totally goofball where NCAA sports are today. The second sister teams cooperate in their own debasement as they are bought off by accepting paydays for games against teams they have no business playing and who have no business playing them, and are not any kind of serious athletic competitions at all. Where else in the world do you have sports with paid patsies padding your schedule? It's watching the Globetrotters and the Senators but without Meadowlark Lemon. Pointless.

it make perfect sense, it makes no sense. NCAA football is an irrationality as a sports 'league' exactly because there is so little cooperative relationship between teams/conferences that still play against one another. Even baseball is evolving toward more revenue shared across the league. If NCAA football were a freestanding institution, half the teams would have folded because they make no money. But bad college football teams are like zombies, they can't die because schools like EMU will divert general revenues to them to keep them alive through periods when they have no business being alive. And of course if the weak teams actually would/could die, the rest of them would have developed some kind of reasonable overall shared revenue system a long time ago once the good teams saw they were going to loose too many of the teams they want to play. But teams don't die, the have's just get havier and the have not's remain marginal and you have 3-4 games each season they demand full price tickets for that are little more than glorified scrimmages for the power 5 teams that play in them. You'd be hard pressed to dream up such a warped overall organization if you tried.

So in the other thread it was reported they pulled both Perez and Lipcius from the game but only one was called up. What did they do, both go to Iapoce's office and he flipped a coin? 🤔

But you have to allow for the evolution between the exhilaration of the dreamt-of for-a-lifetime purchase, and the various degrees of buyer's remorse a decade or two later. Every owner buys with the idea of being Midas to his franchise. Too many turn into Bob Nutting soon enough.

or being traded

In a word, yes.

That would be a lot more meaningful if there was companion film showing that the magnetometer in question did go off on something at some point in the day to prove it was working.

still doesn't really capture it because you can fairly blame *all* the European casualties of WWII on Hitler.

I think there is also a difference between having a left and right handed player at a couple of positions who pretty much always play the same position when they play, (as did the 84 Tigers), and constantly moving multiple guys to a variety of different defensive positions where you never end up with a defensive team that is collectively sharp playing together. I don't see that as any kind of virtue at all and I don't believe for a minute that the tiny offensive mix/match gained (since you are talking mostly about players that are not very offensively productive under *any* circumstance anyway) is worth the general deterioration of defensive run prevention it creates.

all true. And the other thing we don't really have any insight into is the frustration level between javy, the coaching staff, and Hinch. They may all still be fine and just disappointed in the outcomes, or they could all be well into a blame game dynamic and done with each other, which would play a part.

If you grew up with siblings you'd know the basic answer in Ukraine to "why not peace?" is "He started it."

If they can make another pick-up like ERod and Mize comes back strong, they'd be in a nice place. If they pick up a Mike Pelfrey and Mize's FB is still flat, not so much. 😱

The sad part with Javy is that despite whatever the Tigers want him to do or are or are not effectively helping him to do, since he has come to the Tigers it's his Z-swing % which down and his O-swing has hardly changed at all. He not swinging fewer bad pitches but swinging at significantly fewer good ones, which could be why he's a less productive hitter now. It appears possible that whatever effort he is making at being more selective is simply resulting in taking more called strikes. That said, O and Z swing rates don't tell you whether the contact made was successful or not - so large grain of salt. https://www.fangraphs.com/players/javier-baez/12979/stats?position=2B/SS

Probably. But what is certainly true is that by now, it's clear that whatever the Tiger coaching staff has tried to offer Javy has been a total failure. Given that there has been at least some reportage that he is not an un-coachable player, maybe he does see getting out of Detroit into an org that may offer him some kind of help he can use as his only route to future success, because on the other hand, if I'm a player is also seems clear that Detroit is committed to what it believes and if it's not working for you, you must be the problem.

I agree that getting your news from primary sources rather than predigested by advocates is always preferable. But my biggest problem with the television for news in general is that it is a hopelessly time wasting way to get your information, so I'm not going to give hours of my life to cable or network news of any persuasion. That said, the difference is that while MSNBC's slant may sometimes be of dubious net social value, the overall value of Fox's is decidedly malignant and largely directed to the specific interests of Murdoch's oligarchical politics. Given the choice between something that may simply be occasionally misguided and something that is quite deliberately malicious, I don't see a moral equivalence, even if there is a certain functional equivalence in the advocacy.

Seems to be a thing: fruit at our Krogers in A2 is pretty also consistently disappointing, and the fish is inedible. So always additional trips to Busch's or the other small operators in town.

I don't disagree, but it is funny that we were (i.e. the forum) having this very discussion at the beginning of the game when he started his last hot streak. I tend to believe it's too easy for guys with easy power like Torkelson to let themselves get a little lazy, and aside from the fatigue factor a day off can remind them they need to keep up the focus on actually being a good hitter.

New organic silencer technology?

IMAX?

Somethings just come down to quality of life issues. If advertising for drugs, gambling and lawyers would all go away again, my quality of life would definitely improve.

if they cut 50% of the price of those top ten it's roughly a $25 billion savings. Now consider they should have done this at least 15 yrs ago and that's $370 billion wasted.

Yup. Grocery stores have been slow to upgrade their self checkout lanes to handle full order volumes even though corporates have clearly decided that is what they want people to use. $$$$

Bigbie plays 1st. Just sayin'

Sounds likely