Edman85

Why is it that it is generally accepted that chiropractors are legitimate doctors and not pseudoscientific quacks?

There ya go. Half the schedule is in a state where there isn't much benefit, perhaps a net negative, to the athlete to defer.

Michigan's jock tax must not be that extreme, especially at the salaries the Tigers are paying. It is an income tax and luxury tax dodge, so there hasn't been much need.

I do feel like criticizing a move because the one doing the criticizing hasn't heard of the player signed is more of a self own than a legit criticism of the move. I don't mean that to call out MCS, but it's been something that has perturbed me for 30 or so years at this point, and a very common talk radio/talking head talking point that has never made sense to me. Notoriety isn't correlated with ability, and it is an admission of some degree of ignorance, which in a rational world would weaken the argument.

If they offer a fair offer, the player won't say no because of a reputation of being cheap. It will be because the offer itself is cheap.

Best comps I could find the last five offseasons of SP with 5-5.171 years of service traded roughly on Mize's value tier were Chris Bassitt and Steven Matz. Both got decent packages of guys who were names at the time, but didn't work out (one of the prospects was the brother of a former swiping app match I never met up with, but every time I see this name it reminds me of that. Can you guess whose sister I matched with? 😄 ). I think it would be foolish to trade Mize right now, given need and upside. Just pointing out he's got a bit more value than one third tier prospect.

I would imagine MSNBC/MSNOW is exact opposite of the one on the left?

As a golf fan, I for one am glad Scottie Scheffler wasn't shot dead in a situation where a power tripping cop got his feelings hurt a couple years ago.

Unless you are storming the Capitol...

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It tells you a bit where the Tigers stand in TV eyes that all their Sunday Night games are in the Peacock part of the season (i.e., when NBC has Sunday Night NBA) and not the NBC stretch that resembles the recent ESPN Sunday Night big market games.

I'm trying to dig up the articles, but the studies out there have not really shown any hurt feeling effect for players who went through arbitration. They really just take the best deal they can. Some re-sign, but not any less than those who don't get their feelings hurt in arbitration. It's water under the bridge by the time free agency rolls around. In this case, the arguments will be less hurtful, more trying to establish precedent anyways. If the Tigers go in saying "He should make what David Price and Jacob DeGrom made," that's not exactly a slap in the face. Anybody expecting an elite Boras client to re-sign before free agency is fooling themselves anyways.

Also teams trying to maximize their depth and not DFA players may be waiting until they can 60-day some guys when pitchers and catchers report in a month.

I turned 11 Randy Smith's first season, so maybe that's why this doesn't include me? 😄

Re: Skenes... requoting this from the CBA for reference. They can't point to Skenes or Brown and say "ah-ha! See? Comparison!" But if they are in the pool of comparable players, I can't see how that would hurt, even if dismissed easily for the obvious reasons.

They signed before filing and never exchanged figures.

Yeah but it is important to note the file number is not the final offer from negotiations, but instead a strategic number to try to win the arbitration case, and it is done blind. Matt Garza, I believe, once settled once the team and his agent filed the same number.

Reading the fine print, it looks like that deal where they can open up the salary comparisons beyond the 5 year guys means the Tigers can add Skenes (league minimum) to the comparison pool.

But the arbitrator can only choose one of the two numbers, so if the team knew Boras was asking for 30+ why not go low and try?

CBA Dump...

I was kinda joking that they aren't ponying up for his final year of control, so the answer to the thread title is "no!" I mean this doesn't guarantee that is the case next year, but it has seemed pretty clear the sides are far apart on the long term.

I guess this thread can be closed now, eh? Here comes the arbitration freak out I knew was coming as soon as I read Passan's article today.

Let's go one-by-one before painting with that brush... Jack Flaherty: Free Agent signing with an opt out. Didn't opt-out. Kyle Finnegan: Deadline Rental. Re-signed. Rafael Montero: Deadline Rental Tommy Kahnle: Free Agent signing on one-year deal Alex Cobb: Free Agent signing on one-year deal Jason Foley: Non-tendered for salary/injury reasons Sean Guenther: Non-tendered, roster space/injury. Re-signed. Alex Lange: Released, roster crunch Chase Lee: Traded, roster crunch Chris Paddack: Deadline Rental Tanner Rainey: Non-tendered, roster space. Re-signed Paul Sewald: Deadline Rental Jose Urquidy: Free agent signing on one-year deal. Randy Dobnak: Deadline Rental/salary dump. Troy Watson: Minor League free agent find. Re-signed. Nick Margevicius: Minor League free agent find. RJ Petit: Lost in Rule 5 Matt Seelinger: Minor League free agent find. Re-signed. Wilkel Hernandez: Long time org soldier. Jordan Balazovic; Minor League free agent find. Woo-Suk Go: Minor League free agent find. Re-signed Any minor league free agent signed to a second contract is eligible for free agency after the year. But the upper levels were littered with injuries last year. It's why the Tigers went so hard for depth at the deadline. It's also why a bunch of free agents were signed as stop gaps. Heck, guys like Watson and Seelinger were such stopgaps, but they realized they may have found something in them. Minor league free agency after the season is pretty common for most AA and AAA pitchers, so the Tigers didn't really have that anomylous of a season in that regard. What really happened is they had a ton of rental pitchers from the deadline who were gone. I also didn't include Codi Heuer here, who was released in September. Released being a procedural thing because he was injured and couldn't be outrighted. They also had six guys they had to protect (and clearly a 7th in Petit they probably should have if they had room) , had 7 guys to activate from the 60-Day IL, and the last two 40 man moves have been contributors off the 2025 team who were not going to clear waivers. You are basically having to lop off a potentially valuable piece every time you sign a Major League free agent right now, so there are diminishing returns. You get some relief in February when you can 60-Day IL Jobe. That is probably your next MLB Free Agent move.

They only care about one state's right... Or actually a second until 3.5 years ago.