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Where did they find this guy? Unreal

Also, its just attrition.... the Pattersons and Youngs are all dead and buried at this point, along with at least some of the people who populated Oakland County and Detroit during their terms. The suburbs of any city, be it Detroit, Philly, Milwaukee, Chicago, wherever, are now populated much more with people who the grievances of the past don't register. Not totally, but they are different and they are changing... With respect to Michigan, I really think Donald Trump ****ed up when he came to the Detroit Economic Club and took a big giant dump on the city. And wouldn't be surprised why (though polling is close) that Michigan seems to be drifting toward being Harris' best swing state. (And perhaps why Debbie Dingell, a person who is never relaxed before an election, was playing beer pong yesteday)

All behind the "Trump-Vance" banner.... all of it.

Yeah, sure, okay

Again, the message isn't for those who are even voting for the guy... It's for everyone else

I don't know what the future is for the GOP if he loses... I'm pretty sure I know what it looks like if he wins. If someone doesn't like the direction he's taking the party right now, this is the moment of choosing.

Wow. Wow

Republican Congresswoman from South Florida

My question isn't aimed for the Trumpy base... It's aimed at those who don't like the direction of this party. We have at least one of those here.

I'll say this: if you are conservative in a swing state longing for a new and improved GOP after this, especially knowing that Kamala Harris will in all likelihood be constrained by a GOP Senate... What is there to lose? On a purely pragmatic level, how isn't the choice obvious?

Martin kinda makes my point: Allentown (and Lehigh County) are seen as suburban in nature outside of Philly, and Allentown is of outsized importance with respect to Puerto Rican population in PA. It's not your father's SEPA. And in a race where, based on reporting and his campaigns own words, he's depending on Hispanics to vote for him, these comments can make a pretty difference on the margins (at a minimum)

I won't make a judgment on saying he won't win in spite of this, but I don't think this is effective in this context in an election which, based on Trump's own campaign, relies greatly on backfilling suburban women with Black and Latino men. I also think the suburbs of all of these cities (Detroit, Philly and Milwaukee in particular) are changing a lot... They are growing, they are more diverse, and the people who live in them don't necessarily respond the dog whistles in quite the same way. With respect to Detroit, it isn't L. Brooks Patterson's Oakland County anymore... People dont necessarily harbor the same animosities that they used to, and on a cultural level, especially seen during the Tigers and Lions playoffs runs, the "Detroit v Everyone" framing doesn't die off at Eight Mile. There's a level of cohesion today that wasn't the case 20 or 30 years ago

But yes, it's Kamala Harris that is inviting violence. GMAFB

He can win, it is obviously very close. But despite that reality, it cannot be overstated just how ****ty of a campaign he is running. Just by every objective measure

I've never seen Debbie Dingell look this relaxed before a Presidential election...

I've been seeing this take a lot from journalists in the wake of WaPo's **** up... But if consumers aren't satisfied and want to send a message, what other means are there to get it acrossrd? Journalism is very important, but the industry's inability for self-reflection is a big reason we are here.

His consistency on this is pretty unique this cycle imo

Sensing a pattern here

All I will say is that, despite the fact that he was on tape in the AH Tape describing in vivid detail something that happened involving him, it appears that in the eyes of some, he may have been just telling a story (or, as he framed in 2016, "locker room talk") I wish I could understand why he deserves the benefit of the doubt on that. He just doesn't, sorry

Trump himself isn't worth any of it either... Or worth the benefit of the doubt that so many people are willing to give. It's particularly amusing having come of age in a conservative area and in a conservative household during the Clinton impeachment. So many of the people who screamed about moral relativism with respect to Bubba (not without reason), frankly, have lost all credibility during the Trump years; they hem and haw and just have different standards when it comes to their golden calf.

The article is behind a paywall for me, but this seems sort of revealing in terms of how the Trump campaign sees the lay of the land in GA

Thank you for sharing even though it must be difficult to share even now. It's a different ball of wax, but from my own life, I experienced mental abuse at home... I would open up about it, one thing that I learned as a young age is that it could be difficult to convey what happened at home to the guidance counselor at school, or that while he may have even believed me at times there ultimately was little he could do from his position. All of this is to say that the power dynamics in these situations can be really hard for the victims.... and I couldn't even imagine how bad the power dynamics would be if one got mixed up with someone in a powerful position in society like DJT.

"Dirty Animals"... seems kinda dehumanizing, dontcha think?