romad1 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Liking Michigan's 2022 class. I gather Deon Sanders has upset the old boy network down in SEC land by poaching some names. I hope OSU suddenly went from a great class to disaster on the impact of The Game (won't hold my breath for that). Heard MSU gave Tate Myre an honorary scholarship which is fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 It sounds like Coach Prime did a bit more than poach, apparently they're basically paying the kid like 1.5 million leveraging the NIL rules. If that's the case.... it's a new ballgame now. He poached the kid from Florida State. Which is where people think Prime will be coaching very soon because it makes perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Michigan twitter was in a twist last night because they were freaking out that commits were getting squishy. One kid they were particularly worried about was Sabb but I saw he signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Michigan just got 4 star WR Darrius Clemons who was previously committed to Auburn. They've had a great day thus far, up to top 7ish nationally depending on the site, a couple weeks ago they were in the mid to late teens. Edited December 15, 2021 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 Derrick Moore is in for Michigan which means something: maybe. Great ESD for Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, romad1 said: Liking Michigan's 2022 class. I gather Deon Sanders has upset the old boy network down in SEC land by poaching some names. I hope OSU suddenly went from a great class to disaster on the impact of The Game (won't hold my breath for that). Heard MSU gave Tate Myre an honorary scholarship which is fantastic. People don't believe me when I say that I think NIL is going to turn *everything* upside down before all is said and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: People don't believe me when I say that I think NIL is going to turn *everything* upside down before all is said and done. We haven’t scratched the surface of what NIL will become. We are in the infancy. It will completely change college football and the sport will look completely different within 10 years. I expect everything will change including playoffs, bowl games, draft rules, eligibility, transfers, and of course signing day. Edited December 15, 2021 by Hongbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 I hope NIL means that players can't bag on the bowl games willy nilly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 Gotta love this schmarmy schmuck thinking he's a victim of some sort of foul play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 dabo went so far to say that the transfer portal takes away from the focus on education. lord, give me the strength to lie and have no shame like dabo. one of the biggest cheaters in college football has the gall to say that the transfer portal belies college football's educational mission because clemson cant compete with other schools on nil money. that slimy pos is giving urban meyer a run for his money as the worst person in football. what a fucking phony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 michigan finished strong. still have some guys who might sign late too. getting a top 10 class out of this with the way they started is a testament to how important this year's results were for them. the next two years - if they can continue their success - might see them get closer to having top talent again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, romad1 said: Gotta love this schmarmy schmuck thinking he's a victim of some sort of foul play. Well Dabo, the following NFL teams will be looking for a Head Coach next year Chicago Bears Minnesota Vikings New York Giants Philadelphia Eagles Jacksonville Jaguars Las Vegas Raiders Denver Broncos and maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, buddha said: michigan finished strong. still have some guys who might sign late too. getting a top 10 class out of this with the way they started is a testament to how important this year's results were for them. the next two years - if they can continue their success - might see them get closer to having top talent again. Until he signs an extension, its still not certain that Harbaugh will remain as coach. I assume Gattis will be promoted if Jim elects to take the Bears or another NFL job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Hongbit said: Until he signs an extension, its still not certain that Harbaugh will remain as coach. I assume Gattis will be promoted if Jim elects to take the Bears or another NFL job. Oakland is still in play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Until he signs an extension, its still not certain that Harbaugh will remain as coach. I assume Gattis will be promoted if Jim elects to take the Bears or another NFL job. I don't think Harbaugh wants to go anywhere else. I think he likes working with College players. But we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: People don't believe me when I say that I think NIL is going to turn *everything* upside down before all is said and done. Not sure how this is legal but these are the kinds of things groups of rich guys can come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Until he signs an extension, its still not certain that Harbaugh will remain as coach. I assume Gattis will be promoted if Jim elects to take the Bears or another NFL job. you're thinking that harbaugh is a normal person. he's not. he's a freak. i dont think he's going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, romad1 said: Gotta love this schmarmy schmuck thinking he's a victim of some sort of foul play. I will boldly predict (again) that the end game will be a HS draft into the NCAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: I don't think Harbaugh wants to go anywhere else. I think he likes working with College players. But we'll see. Most likely he stays but he seems like an odd guy that’s really hard to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 10 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: I will boldly predict (again) that the end game will be a HS draft into the NCAA. i dont see how. are they going to unionize? a draft a follow system like hockey might work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 10 hours ago, buddha said: dabo went so far to say that the transfer portal takes away from the focus on education. Won't someone please think of the student-athletes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 'Cruitin is more like like 'Bribin' these days. I was for players getting paid because every decision in college football has been based solely on money in the last 10-15 years, but the amounts feel a bit ridiculous and it seems like there is a big chance this blows up in everyone's face. Only a matter of time before high school players get *legally* paid. Couple this with open gambling and it all feels more dirty than ever. Edited December 16, 2021 by Motor City Sonics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, buddha said: i dont see how. are they going to unionize? a draft a follow system like hockey might work. NLRB has cleared the way for a union to form and some people at UMinn are already trying to get one off the ground, so that possibility is being pursued. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/31896889/new-players-association-aims-represent-college-football-players-amid-changing-ncaa-landscape The hockey model ties a player to a pro team, so in a system like that the NFL and the NCAA/conferences could work out deals on player placement, but I think it would still end up looking different because the current hockey system maintains amateur status for college hockey players and that is just what has gone away. Or maybe I should day maintained? I feel like all terms have to be used past tense! But one place I wouldn't look for constructive solutions would be the NFL. To them, the beauty of NIL is that it is not their money. I don't see them being in a hurry to offer suggestions for a system that looks like a minor league and makes them responsible for salary payments into a minor league/college system. Edited December 16, 2021 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) The long term question to me is whether NIL fundraising will eventually eat academic fundraising. College football doesn't make that much money for most schools - but just breaking even on the athletic dept budget is considered good enough because the good will generated by a national sports presence is thought to prime alumni giving across the board. But depending on where the NIL arms race goes/is allowed to go, at what point are you having to divert so much of your total development dollars into NIL that you can no longer make the argument that FB is supporting a net positive in the overall giving to the rest of the institution? For scale, UM is budgeting for ~$150M in donor contributions for FY '22. Just to pick a number out of thin air, let's say you can argue that a third of that is supported by sports goodwill That means if NIL costs get near $50M/yr people may start asking why you are operating a football team. Could it get there? Who knows at this point? Since M is one of the richest sports programs and also has one of the biggest total donor bases, you have to think those numbers are relatively smaller most other places. Sure, the Alabama's, Notre Dames and Michigans are not really very likely to be driven to the mat by this, but you have to have other teams to play! If schools at the bottom who can't compete financially start dropping out of conferences, the formation of new super conferences may be actually be fine from the fans perspective and the net result will be more non-revenue football being played in more places. Maybe not such a bad end - who knows? Edited December 16, 2021 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 Well now Not all M athletes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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