Trumps Presidency 2025

[Mr.TaterSalad]

57 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Where was this during the election? I could never understand why Democrats didn't go around and call Trump a pedophile and bring up his connections and friendships to Epstein. It is low hanging fruit that could have and should have been exploited. I

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

He was a being salesman.  He wants something from him, so he showers him with insincere praise.  If you are saying that he knew that English was his native language and he was pretending otherwise, I don't buy it.  

Does insincere flattery get you want you want? I would think having the power and might of the United States in your back pocket would be more effective. I would also think none of those leaders would ever interpret it as flattery, and I'm convinced Trump didn't mean it to be. This was not anything like a mistake, which implies honest effort.

Trump may or may not have known English is the official language of Liberia—that's a debatable, and insignificant, proposition—but his condescending question was purposeful in his bigotry toward the “colored guy” and in the appeal of that to ardent true-believer MAGAs.

You may not be aware of this because you’re surrounded by highly-educated academics for whom pursuit of high knowledge is its own worthy goal, but from firsthand experience, I can confirm for you that among certain people of the working class, it is socially advantageous to overtly demonstrate to those around them that they don’t know things that are considered eggheaded, such as what the official language of any given African country is. If someone traveling with that group were to show they know such things, they would—they do—get suspicious looks and comments from the people they hang out with, and it would—it does—actually hurt their standing with the guys (and it’s almost always guys), because then they can't trust that the undercover egghead is one of them. So it’s best to show, actively and overtly, that they absolutely don’t know stuff like that. And the way I see it, since a large portion of Trump’s fan base is made up of certain people of the working class, that appears to be what he’s trying to accomplish here.

Trump doesn’t have to be a genius or well-educated to know that it’s advantageous for him to demonstrate his ignorance of that kind of thing. None of the guys I inexplicably tried to ingratiate myself with back in those dark days of my life were any smarter than Trump, and yet, they knew how to show ignorance of eggheaded things, even when I knew they knew such things. It's an integral part of getting approval from that crowd. And when Trump does this, at least that portion of his base swoon over it. This is an example of him knowing just what he’s doing in situations like this.

[Tiger337]

25 minutes ago, chasfh said:

You may not be aware of this because you’re surrounded by highly-educated academics for whom pursuit of high knowledge is its own worthy goal, but from firsthand experience, I can confirm for you that among certain people of the working class, it is socially advantageous to overtly demonstrate to those around them that they don’t know things that are considered eggheaded, such as what the official language of any given African country is. 

 

LOL, I may not be a man of the world like you, but I'm painfully aware of those things.  Painfully aware.  In fact, I think anyone who has attended public jr high and high schools becomes very aware of those things at an early age.  

I also know that Trump likes to appeal to his base, but I just don't believe he is calculating and nuanced about it as you claim.   

Edited Thursday at 06:13 PM by Tiger337

[Motown Bombers]

 

[LaceyLou]

17 hours ago, chasfh said:

I hope someone asked him whether he would forgive Hunter Biden if he had raped his daughter.

The clear trend is only those who share your political views should be forgiven-especially if the victim is 'only' a female.

[LaceyLou]

2 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Where was this during the election? I could never understand why Democrats didn't go around and call Trump a pedophile and bring up his connections and friendships to Epstein. It is low hanging fruit that could have and should have been exploited. I

Sadly, it's probably the threat of exposing Democrats as pedophiles too. And yes, that sucks. 😞

[chasfh]

Here are three royal proclamations I think we will see in the next year:

• All natural born citizens born to undocumented immigrants will be denaturalized and subject to deportation.
• Police officers at local, state, and federal levels will no longer be required to identify themselves as police.
• A national emergency related to elections will be declared, the federal government will seize control of the election processes on all levels, and an emergency redistricting of congressional districts will be undertaken in advance of the 2026 mid-terms by a centralized commission at the direction of the White House. 

Edited Thursday at 08:09 PM by chasfh

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

LOL, I may not be a man of the world like you, but I'm painfully aware of those things.  Painfully aware.  In fact, I think anyone who has attended public jr high and high schools becomes very aware of those things at an early age.  

I also know that Trump likes to appeal to his base, but I just don't believe he is calculating and nuanced about it as you claim.   

lol man of the lower middle class working world.

I’m talking about grown adults. People who never outgrow their middle school personas, which tracks with Trump, who talks like a middle school bully. That’s why they love him so much!

I also think you might be overselling the intellectual calculation and nuance it takes to act ignorant to appease your audience.

[chasfh]

25 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

The clear trend is only those who share your political views should be forgiven-especially if the victim is 'only' a female.

By “your” you mean Trump, right? That’s what my like is predicated on. 😁

[Tiger337]

24 minutes ago, chasfh said:

lol man of the lower middle class working world.

I’m talking about grown adults. People who never outgrow their middle school personas, which tracks with Trump, who talks like a middle school bully. That’s why they love him so much!

I also think you might be overselling the intellectual calculation and nuance it takes to act ignorant to appease your audience.

I know you are talking about adults and I've known people like that.  I'm pretty sure we all have.  

It takes very little intellectual calculation at all.  What I disagree with is that you talk like every word and action of his planned out and every dumb thing he says is done with a purpose.  I don't agree with that.  I do think he tries to appeal to a certain target population like you say, but I also think a lot of times he is just being naturally stupid.  

His behavior is nothing new.  His behavior is not something he does just for political gain.  He has been in the public eye for 45 years and he has always come across as stupid.  

Edited Thursday at 08:31 PM by Tiger337

[Motown Bombers]

3 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Where was this during the election? I could never understand why Democrats didn't go around and call Trump a pedophile and bring up his connections and friendships to Epstein. It is low hanging fruit that could have and should have been exploited. I

I believe the left was yelling genocide and ceasefire and telling voters to abandon their candidate. 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[pfife]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

I believe the left was yelling genocide and ceasefire and telling voters to abandon their candidate. 

They should have posted dozens of antisemitic videos on a detroit sports message board like you did

[Motown Bombers]

 

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I know you are talking about adults and I've known people like that.  I'm pretty sure we all have.  

It takes very little intellectual calculation at all.  What I disagree with is that you talk like every word and action of his planned out and every dumb thing he says is done with a purpose.

You need to provide the receipts showing me saying everything he says is for with a purpose. Take as much time as you need.

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

You need to provide the receipts showing me saying everything he says is for with a purpose. Take as much time as you need.

"He knows exactly what he's doing"

[CMRivdogs]

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[smr-nj]

This is the worst TV show, evah.

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

"He knows exactly what he's doing"

I don’t see the part where I said ”every word” or “every action”. I say that only in regard to specific acts in the moment, for example, with the question to the Liberia president, I’m pretty sure Trump did not make a mistake, borne of honest effort, to compliment him. I believe Trump meant to condescend to him, and that he meant to put on a show about it. When it comes to that kind of thing, he knows exactly what he’s doing.

Edited Friday at 11:41 AM by chasfh

[Tiger337]

26 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I don’t see the part where I said ”every word” or “every action”. I say that only in regard to specific acts in the moment, for example, with the question to the Liberia president, I’m pretty sure Trump did not make a mistake, borne of honest effort, to compliment him. I believe Trump meant to condescend to him, and that he meant to put on a show about it. When it comes to that kind of thing, he knows exactly what he’s doing.

How is that going to help him at this meeting?  He already won the election, so he doesn't need to court the racist vote in that meeting.  I think his goal in the meeting was to get African countries to accept deported immigrants.  I'm sure he'd also like to grab any minerals that they might have.  None of that has anything to do with his racist voters.  I can believe that he was being condescending in order to put them in a weak or defensive position just because he likes to do stuff like that.  I can also believe that he's dumb enough to believe that complimenting him in that way would help in negotiations. In fact, that is what I think happened.  

By the way, I did not know that English was the primary language in Liberia, so that's not why I called him dumb in this instance.  I do know that there are countries in Africa where English is the primary language, so if I hear an African  speaking perfect English, my first instinct is to assume that he is from one of those countries.  I would think that someone who speaks with international leaders on a regular basis would be able to figure that out.  I can't assume that with Trump though, because, although I know he is very skilled at marketing and sales,  I have seen no evidence of intellect from him ever.  

[Motown Bombers]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I don’t see the part where I said ”every word” or “every action”. I say that only in regard to specific acts in the moment, for example, with the question to the Liberia president, I’m pretty sure Trump did not make a mistake, borne of honest effort, to compliment him. I believe Trump meant to condescend to him, and that he meant to put on a show about it. When it comes to that kind of thing, he knows exactly what he’s doing.

Or, Occam’s razor, he’s just a condescending asshole like he’s been his entire life. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

15 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

I believe the left was yelling genocide and ceasefire and telling voters to abandon their candidate. 

What the **** does that have to do with the national Democrats and their campaign apparatus refusing to talk about this? I get why someone like Bubba wouldn't talk about it because he's likely one of the perverts on the client list. Of course, we still need to have a pervert like Slick Willie out on the campaign trail.

[Motown Bombers]

23 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

What the **** does that have to do with the national Democrats and their campaign apparatus refusing to talk about this? I get why someone like Bubba wouldn't talk about it because he's likely one of the perverts on the client list. Of course, we still need to have a pervert like Slick Willie out on the campaign trail.

Democrats don't dabble in conspiracy theories. I don't believe such a list exists. If it doesn't exist, and you call for it to be released, then Republicans will say Biden is hiding something. 

[pfife]

LOL