Tigeraholic1 Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: It was said by a poster here that they've been to Democratic meetings and they never talk about helping people. I'm here at our 12th Congressional District meeting and we're talking with our Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib about how we can donate to local food panties and help people effected by the Republican government shutdown and Republican SNAP benefit cuts. If she was my congresswoman I would make every effort to move to a new district..zz Quote
1984Echoes Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Keep it shutdown. F the ACA it was a doomed program from the start. If you need to subsidize it consistently than they should subsidize every Americans insurance premiums. Better yet: Have only ONE Not-For-Profit medical insurance company that covers ALL Americans. Call it... oh, I don't know... "Medicare for All"? "American Health Insurance"? Because then... the MIDDLEMEN who offer NO MEDICAL SERVICES whatsoever... Are cut out of the picture. You understand the business concept of "cutting out the middleman", yes? You understand the business concept of "bargaining power", yes? (covering ALL Americans gives the BIGGEST POSSIBLE bargaining power to "American Health Insurance" to reduce costs.) Talk about SHARPLY reducing the COSTS of medical services (no wasteful middlemen like all these insurance companies battling each other and spending BILLIONS on: advertising, executive pay, bottom lines, etc...) You understand the business concept of "DENYING COVERAGE", yes? Doesn't happen in a not-for-profit. ONLY happens in for-profit companies willing to **** Americans out of their coverage for bottom line gain. 1 Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 19 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Better yet: Have only ONE Not-For-Profit medical insurance company that covers ALL Americans. Call it... oh, I don't know... "Medicare for All"? "American Health Insurance"? Because then... the MIDDLEMEN who offer NO MEDICAL SERVICES whatsoever... Are cut out of the picture. You understand the business concept of "cutting out the middleman", yes? You understand the business concept of "bargaining power", yes? (covering ALL Americans gives the BIGGEST POSSIBLE bargaining power to "American Health Insurance" to reduce costs.) Talk about SHARPLY reducing the COSTS of medical services (no wasteful middlemen like all these insurance companies battling each other and spending BILLIONS on: advertising, executive pay, bottom lines, etc...) You understand the business concept of "DENYING COVERAGE", yes? Doesn't happen in a not-for-profit. ONLY happens in for-profit companies willing to **** Americans out of their coverage for bottom line gain. Too bad thats not on the table though. Dems only want to “take care” of the ACA folks, F the folks funding the government funded healthcare. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 39 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Better yet: Have only ONE Not-For-Profit medical insurance company that covers ALL Americans. Call it... oh, I don't know... "Medicare for All"? "American Health Insurance"? Because then... the MIDDLEMEN who offer NO MEDICAL SERVICES whatsoever... Are cut out of the picture. You understand the business concept of "cutting out the middleman", yes? You understand the business concept of "bargaining power", yes? (covering ALL Americans gives the BIGGEST POSSIBLE bargaining power to "American Health Insurance" to reduce costs.) Talk about SHARPLY reducing the COSTS of medical services (no wasteful middlemen like all these insurance companies battling each other and spending BILLIONS on: advertising, executive pay, bottom lines, etc...) You understand the business concept of "DENYING COVERAGE", yes? Doesn't happen in a not-for-profit. ONLY happens in for-profit companies willing to **** Americans out of their coverage for bottom line gain. Bingo. Trump still has no plan, no understanding of what a plan would be. You can't "give the money back to the people" because we know they won't buy health insurance with it and we'll end up with public care going back into the emergency wards where it costs multiple time more than properly managed care. This stuff isn't rocket science, it's all been worked out time and time again all over the world. It's only idiot conservative Americans who could look and see the way the world works everywhere but would rather close their eyes than have their ideological fantasies punctured. Even as dyed in the wool a conservative as Romney saw there is basically one way to do it. Trump is just ignorant and isn't interested in knowing how and why he is wrong. 1 2 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Who wants to tell Naziholic that employer insurance is subsidized? Quote
chasfh Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: By bringing the force of the federal government down upon the heads of team ownership, just to fulfill his personal wishes for aggrandizement, Trump will get what he wants. Quote
chasfh Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: Does Sleepy Don understand how business actually works? But what if the people take the money that's supposed to go to healthcare and use it to buy caviar and lobster on Amazon instead? Quote
chasfh Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: Bingo. Trump still has no plan, no understanding of what a plan would be. TBF, Trump said he would deliver only concepts of a plan, which is a lower level promise to break. Quote
LaceyLou Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: Bingo. Trump still has no plan, no understanding of what a plan would be. You can't "give the money back to the people" because we know they won't buy health insurance with it and we'll end up with public care going back into the emergency wards where it costs multiple time more than properly managed care. This stuff isn't rocket science, it's all been worked out time and time again all over the world. It's only idiot conservative Americans who could look and see the way the world works everywhere but would rather close their eyes than have their ideological fantasies punctured. Even as dyed in the wool a conservative as Romney saw there is basically one way to do it. Trump is just ignorant and isn't interested in knowing how and why he is wrong. And if they do use it to buy health insurance, doesn't that mean the 'big bad' insurance companies are getting the money anyway? Quote
romad1 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 41 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Argentina does have the model for Peronism … and lots of ex Nazis Quote
CMRivdogs Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, LaceyLou said: And if they do use it to buy health insurance, doesn't that mean the 'big bad' insurance companies are getting the money anyway? But probably not at a discounted rate one would expect if the government negotiates rates as they currently do fo insurance like Medicare 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, chasfh said: But what if the people take the money that's supposed to go to healthcare and use it to buy caviar and lobster on Amazon instead? Have you seen lobster prices lately? We ain’t getting that much from Trumpdontcare Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted 51 minutes ago Author Posted 51 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Who wants to tell Naziholic that employer insurance is subsidized? Hey @smr-nj just wanted to see if the you would message Bomber. I know the answer already. Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted 49 minutes ago Author Posted 49 minutes ago Political theater! Shoom is cooked, runs crying to the locker room lol. Quote
romad1 Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: Its all about helping the kleptos. Quote
Archie Posted 23 minutes ago Posted 23 minutes ago 4 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: It was said by a poster here that they've been to Democratic meetings and they never talk about helping people. I'm here at our 12th Congressional District meeting and we're talking with our Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib about how we can donate to local food panties and help people effected by the Republican government shutdown and Republican SNAP benefit cuts. This is a meeting for the public so the Hamas supporter is going to tell the people what they want to hear and their blind supporters dont realize they are blowing smoke up their butts. The functions I was talking about are the democrat conventions and nomination meetings. Big difference in case you don't know. 1 Quote
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