Trumps Presidency 2025

[Sports_Freak]

These MAGA creeps really see nothing wrong with this being done to any human being;

 

[Sports_Freak]

The shooter was granted asylum by....Donald Trump;

 

[Sports_Freak]

16 minutes ago, Dan Gilmore said:

We don’t now, or at any time in the last few administrations, have open borders. Anyone who uses that term just advertises their dishonesty, and in most cases, racism.

And ignorance. Just repeating the biggest liar in US politics.

[ewsieg]

54 minutes ago, Dan Gilmore said:

We don’t now, or at any time in the last few administrations, have open borders. Anyone who uses that term just advertises their dishonesty, and in most cases, racism.

You are correct that we have not had open borders, anytime in any of our lives at least.  The problem with the left stating it like this, is it backs up some of your side that says we have no border issues at all.  For many years, and especially during Biden's years it was extremely porous, even if it wasn't 'open'.  To say the border issue isn't complex would be naive and I'll be the first to blame a foreign policy decades in the making in Latin/South America which exploded when Biden happened to be President.  But Biden encouraged people to seek asylum, said we could absorb 2 million people easily, and said everyone at the border 'deserves to be heard', then he became president and signed EO making it easier to seek asylum.  Millions came hoping to be 1 of that 2 million figure.  Millions more than the 2 million figure.

It's lazy to say 'open borders' in referring to how Biden managed the border, but Biden managed it so much differently than any other president has that it seemed so much against an aspect of a border they have seen before.   They may be lazy, but it seems to be a jump to call them dishonest or racist just because they have more concerns about that issue than you do.

[GalagaGuy]

MAGA morons sure were having fun pointing out that the National Guard shooter was allowed into the country under Biden.

They sure shut up quick when it came out that he was granted asylum under Trump.   

[pfife]

Thanks trump

https://www.mlive.com/news/2025/11/more-than-150-to-be-laid-off-as-part-of-detroit-auto-suppliers-facility-closure.html?outputType=amp

[romad1]

We celebrated my wife's early retirement as a fed today.  You can still come @ me Trump but you can't hurt her, now.  

[Dan Gilmore]

35 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

You are correct that we have not had open borders, anytime in any of our lives at least.  The problem with the left stating it like this, is it backs up some of your side that says we have no border issues at all.  For many years, and especially during Biden's years it was extremely porous, even if it wasn't 'open'.  To say the border issue isn't complex would be naive and I'll be the first to blame a foreign policy decades in the making in Latin/South America which exploded when Biden happened to be President.  But Biden encouraged people to seek asylum, said we could absorb 2 million people easily, and said everyone at the border 'deserves to be heard', then he became president and signed EO making it easier to seek asylum.  Millions came hoping to be 1 of that 2 million figure.  Millions more than the 2 million figure.

It's lazy to say 'open borders' in referring to how Biden managed the border, but Biden managed it so much differently than any other president has that it seemed so much against an aspect of a border they have seen before.   They may be lazy, but it seems to be a jump to call them dishonest or racist just because they have more concerns about that issue than you do.

You agreed I was correct with what I said - and then went off the rails about what some on the left believes (or your opinion of same). Most of the “left” people I know, and lots of centrist people believe the immigration issue is a mess. Despite efforts that have been made to fix it, the “right” -to use your simple labels- doesn’t want to fix it. So they can continue to stoke anger and resentment all the while getting piles of cash sent to them.

[pfife]

Immigrants are awesome.   We need more of them not less.

[pfife]

Thanks trump

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-dhs-thomas-fugate-cp3-terrorism-prevention

[pfife]

Thanks trump

"Exclusive: FBI scales back staffing, tracking of domestic terrorism probes, sources say"

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-scales-back-staffing-tracking-domestic-terrorism-probes-sources-say-2025-03-21/#:~:text=Exclusive%3A FBI scales back staffing%2C tracking of domestic terrorism probes%2C sources say

[GalagaGuy]

I'm shocked!

 

[ewsieg]

3 hours ago, Dan Gilmore said:

You agreed I was correct with what I said - and then went off the rails about what some on the left believes (or your opinion of same). Most of the “left” people I know, and lots of centrist people believe the immigration issue is a mess. Despite efforts that have been made to fix it, the “right” -to use your simple labels- doesn’t want to fix it. So they can continue to stoke anger and resentment all the while getting piles of cash sent to them.

A person critical of the border and says 'Open Border' to point out the same issues we all agree to (Except Pfife) and that means they are dishonest and probably a racist.... but I went off the rails?

My guess is we are probably pretty close on immigration, but there are legitimate reasons for disagreement.  Simply labeling disagreement as dishonest and racist isn't helping your cause.  

I don't think Civil Rights leaders, democratic politicians, and all the 'peaceful' protesters with BLM were dishonest.  They saw a legitimate problem and IMO, were a bit misguided at the scale and direction of it, so while I would like to see police reform (screw getting rid of qualified immunity, but lawsuits should be paid out of their retirement funds), I vehemently disagreed with those leaders that it was an endemic, an epidemic of cops killing black people, or that policing was started so it could kill blacks and continue enslavement.

My guess is most people don't believe in those comments either, especially here.  My guess is that most of you were probably a bit more sympathetic to those leaders and even if you disagreed, you either participated in BLM protests or at minimum, supported them.  

Harsh words and phrases sound a lot more harsh when you disagree with them and softer when you don't.

Edited Thursday at 07:03 AM by ewsieg

[Sports_Freak]

10 hours ago, pfife said:

Immigrants are awesome.   We need more of them not less.

Keep the immigrants, deport MAGA. 😅

[1984Echoes]

7 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Keep the immigrants, deport MAGA. 😅

To Siberia.

They like oligarchic murderous fascist dictatorships?

Fine... I exile 25 million MAGA fascist ****scumbags to Siberia for 25 years. They can send a report to America after 25 years detailing exactly what it's like living in an actual murderous fascist dictatorship (if they're still alive that is...).

And if they have sufficiently repented, perhaps President Sasha Obama will allow them back into our DEMOCRACY (as immigrants of course) with a pardon.

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, pfife said:

Thats not why i dont take them seriously.   

For me, its because they support the GOP pedophile protection program.   

And yet you take them seriously enough to relentlessly hammer them on that point—to no effect except to continue giving them the oxygen they need to keep being a factor on this board—instead of just ignoring them and eventually letting them drown unceremoniously in their own sludge.

Edited Thursday at 03:53 PM by chasfh

[chasfh]

14 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

and just stupid. Just because you can doctor up an image doesn't mean it signifies anything at all. 100 monkeys with typewriters level stuff.

What a mean thing to say about Nigerians with actual computers.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, pfife said:

Immigrants are awesome.   We need more of them not less.

Particularly since they are of working age and can help support an aging population that no longer works—which has been the plan since 1935.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, pfife said:

Thanks trump

"Exclusive: FBI scales back staffing, tracking of domestic terrorism probes, sources say"

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-scales-back-staffing-tracking-domestic-terrorism-probes-sources-say-2025-03-21/#:~:text=Exclusive%3A FBI scales back staffing%2C tracking of domestic terrorism probes%2C sources say

There are so, so many of these that go on literally every day that "Thanks, Trump" should be its own thread.

[oblong]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Particularly since they are of working age and can help support an aging population that no longer works—which has been the plan since 1935.

That’s why we need to knock down our women a couple of pegs. Reintroduce the “trad” wives.  Decriminalize the rape of girls who reached puberty and remove the stigma of older men and younger women, if it ever existed, and let the alpha males procreate the proper white macho society thus country was founded on. 
 

That’s their goal. 

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, oblong said:

That’s why we need to knock down our women a couple of pegs. Reintroduce the “trad” wives.  Decriminalize the rape of girls who reached puberty and remove the stigma of older men and younger women, if it ever existed, and let the alpha males procreate the proper white macho society thus country was founded on. 
 

That’s their goal. 

One more reason the red hats should want immigrants. At least the late middle-aged red hats, anyway ... 😏

Edited Thursday at 04:55 PM by chasfh

[Tigeraholic1]

Can’t argue against a word he said.

 

[GalagaGuy]

Smith is an idiot and so is anyone else who thinks Kelly said anything against military regulations.  Anyone who actually served in the military knows he didn't. 

I'll also take a moment to acknowledge the video he and others put out was overly-dramatic nonsense.  

[ben9753]

Kelly said to ignore illegal orders? Isn't that what you are supposed to do? I guess unless you want to employ the Goering defense. What am I missing here.

[Hongbit]

21 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I'll also take a moment to acknowledge the video he and others put out was overly-dramatic nonsense.  

That’s politics.  Overly dramatic nonsense is a core staple of the job.