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11 minutes ago, oblong said:

You think Stephen Miller will wake up and change his mind because of elections?  Who do you think is going to stop them? How does a rescue of our nation play out if it happens thru normal political channels?  I don’t see any endgame where these folks are held responsible either politically, electorally, or even criminally.  

Just remember something.    For a long long long time the people on that side allowed a lot of people who shouldn't be stockpiling weapons do just that.   They aren't all on their side either.   May not happen to the people with secret service around them, but these ICE guys are going to be targets and someone who is against them is going to snap.     Won't bother me one bit if that happened.     I won't be doing it.  I don't have guns.  I hate guns.    But all their narrative about fighting the tyrannical government might come true - a lot differently than they thought.   You reap what you sow. 

 

First we sow the seed, then nature grows the seed, then we EAT the seed, it's amazing.  (sorry, no more Young Ones references) 

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Just now, Motor City Sonics said:

Just remember something.    For a long long long time the people on that side allowed a lot of people who shouldn't be stockpiling weapons do just that.   They aren't all on their side either.   May not happen to the people with secret service around them, but these ICE guys are going to be targets and someone who is against them is going to snap.     Won't bother me one bit if that happened.     I won't be doing it.  I don't have guns.  I hate guns.    But all their narrative about fighting the tyrannical government might come true - a lot differently than they thought. 

blood of tyrants and so forth.  

What will definitively lead to violence is pretending or repeating the mantra that there is nothing you can do.  

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All I can tell you is that I won't be rooting for any USA teams come Olympic time.    I am ashamed of being American now.  I think we are the scum of the Earth for letting this happen.      Plus - Trump will take credit if an American wins a medal.  I refuse to support any of it.     I will not stand for the flag or the anthem.  **** it all.   It's all stupid brainwashing **** anyway.  

 

 And if FIFA had any honor (trust me, they don't), they'd be pulling out of the World Cup in American stadiums and giving all the games to Canada and Mexico.   But nah, they're too busy giving a tyrant his fake little trophies.   I think there is a very good chance that 3/4 of the World Cup qualifying teams sit this one out.   

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Just now, Motor City Sonics said:

I see pictures of Alex Pretti in his medical scrubs and he looks like Noah Wyle in The Pitt and I am wondering if they dedicate the next episode to him.  

that would be excellent!

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Just now, mtutiger said:

 

Do we possibly see some confrontation between Minnesota National Guard/State Police/City Cops and ICE agents?   I can absolutely see that happening.  They don't want those GOONS there.  They are not even real law enforcement.  They have no training - they're just thugs who were basically deputized.    Those real cops don't want that.  Besides, I guess some ICE agents have been harassing some cops.   Why?  Were they brown-skinned?  Did they have a slight accent of some kind.   The flashpoint might be Cops vs. ICE.      

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3 minutes ago, romad1 said:

that would be excellent!

I have heard that there is going to be a couple of plot points that are direct middle fingers Robert Kennedy Jr. this season, so I know which way they lean to begin with.   They lean towards fact-based medicine, which is now a political thing thanks to RFK Jr and his conspiracy theory friends.  Seriously, doctors have been floored by how accurate the show has been and how they are doing their homework.   

 

  I can't even stomach watching older episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm because to hell with Cheryl Hines for marrying that jackass. 

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3 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Do we possibly see some confrontation between Minnesota National Guard/State Police/City Cops and ICE agents?   I can absolutely see that happening.  They don't want those GOONS there.  They are not even real law enforcement.  They have no training - they're just thugs who were basically deputized.    Those real cops don't want that.  Besides, I guess some ICE agents have been harassing some cops.   Why?  Were they brown-skinned?  Did they have a slight accent of some kind.   The flashpoint might be Cops vs. ICE.      

When ICE executes a member of the Minnnesota Guard or local police.  Which should happen any moment.

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42 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Do we possibly see some confrontation between Minnesota National Guard/State Police/City Cops and ICE agents?   I can absolutely see that happening.  They don't want those GOONS there.  They are not even real law enforcement.  They have no training - they're just thugs who were basically deputized.    Those real cops don't want that.  Besides, I guess some ICE agents have been harassing some cops.   Why?  Were they brown-skinned?  Did they have a slight accent of some kind.   The flashpoint might be Cops vs. ICE.      

I don't know what will happen, but I know that State/Local Police and National Guard have different constituencies and priorities than the feds. And those priorities are absolutely in tension with one another.

If this continues, in Minneapolis or elsewhere, something will end up giving 

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1 hour ago, oblong said:

You think Stephen Miller will wake up and change his mind because of elections?  Who do you think is going to stop them? How does a rescue of our nation play out if it happens thru normal political channels?  I don’t see any endgame where these folks are held responsible either politically, electorally, or even criminally.  

And we still don't know how Trump/Musk stole the '24 election. No way did that clown win ALL the swing states. I know that sounds like a conspiracy and even though I call conspiracy theorists crazy, that one I really do believe. And with the midterms coming up, the GOP doesn't sound very worried. Its like, they know something?

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So he wasn't legally carrying and that is how they are going to try and get out of it?  ICE didn't know he was illegally carrying when they shot him.  Even if they did, that doesn't mean you get to shoot him.  

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2 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

So he wasn't legally carrying and that is how they are going to try and get out of it?  ICE didn't know he was illegally carrying when they shot him.  Even if they did, that doesn't mean you get to shoot him.  

Was there some suspension of the 2nd Amendment?

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16 minutes ago, romad1 said:

 

Unfortunately that has happened often enough that I could see it happening again. And it will take less time than that for 'concerned' MAGA politicians to fall back in line.

I really hope I'm wrong this time.

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