Sports_Freak Posted Sunday at 07:36 PM Posted Sunday at 07:36 PM An example of Trump's projection; He falsely claims protesters are being paid by democrats. In the meantime, he's paying untrained racists, insurrectionists, proud boys and violent felons he pardoned $50,000 to join ICE. His budget for this group of violent agents is greater than many countries entire armed forces. Our tax dollars are being used to destroy democracy. SMH 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Sunday at 08:05 PM Posted Sunday at 08:05 PM (edited) 45 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I mean, you take control by flipping Trump +17 districts like this one which was literally in Texas. This is the left. Always find a way to dismiss Democrats success and wonder why approval for Dems is so low. The Dems over performed in a lot of specials before 2024 as well, what did it get them?. In the US it is all about turnout, so when turnout is low you know nothing - that's not the same as being hopeless, it's just being realistic. Look at the NYC mayoral elections. Coumo got more than enough votes to win that race in something like 10 of the last 11 elections, but Mamdani generated enough enthusiasm to swamp Coumo's total anyway. But that means he's on a fragile mandate because if that enthusiasm flags, and his voters lose motivation, there is still a huge mass of people that were willing to vote against him. It's very unlikely the next NYC mayor's race will have another record turnout. So what do we really know? Trump voters may have largely gone silent in a lot of places because they know they can't defend what he is doing, but that doesn't mean they don't still *like* what he is doing - so best not to underestimate them at any turn. Edited Sunday at 08:20 PM by gehringer_2 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Sunday at 08:22 PM Posted Sunday at 08:22 PM 5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: The Dems over performed in a lot of specials before 2024 as well, what did it get them?. In the US it is all about turnout, so when turnout is low you know nothing - that's not the same as being hopeless, it's just being realistic. Look at the NYC mayoral elections. Coumo got more than enough votes to win that race in something like 10 of the last 11 elections, but Mamdani generated enough enthusiasm to swamp Coumo's total anyway. But that means he's on a fragile mandate because if that enthusiasm flags, and his voters lose motivation, there is still a huge mass of people that were willing to vote against him. Trump voters may have largely gone silent in a lot of places because they know they can't defend what he is doing, but that doesn't mean they don't still *like* what he is doing - so best not to underestimate them at any turn. Not sure what New York city's election has to do with it. This was the first time it was a three way race with two Dem candidates so of course the turnout was going to be higher. If you want to use the New York election, the Republican in the election Sliwa, got half the number of votes he got in the previous election despite the much higher turnout. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Sunday at 08:27 PM Posted Sunday at 08:27 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Not sure what New York city's election has to do with it. it's a demonstration that turnout is more important than any other factor. Americans are not reliable voters, so any kind of extrapolation of voting results suffers from the same reliability issues. You may know what the people that showed up for election A think, but that doesn't get you diddly when a different cross section of voters shows up in election B. As long as turn out in US elections tends to be only 1/2 of the electorate you can't take too much from results when less than half of that half shows up. It's great, but it's delusional to think it means anything bankable. Edited Sunday at 08:29 PM by gehringer_2 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Sunday at 08:29 PM Posted Sunday at 08:29 PM Just now, gehringer_2 said: it's a demonstration that turnout is more important than any other factor. Americans are not reliable voters, so any kind of extrapolation of voting results suffers from the same reliability issues. You may know what the people that showed up for election A think, but that doesn't get you diddly when a different cross section of voters shows up in election B. As long as turn out in US elections tends to be only 1/2 of the electorate you can't take too much from results when less than half of that half shows up. And republicans aren't turning out. The New York election was the first one in a long time that was actually competitive so that is why there was a higher turnout. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Sunday at 08:30 PM Posted Sunday at 08:30 PM Just now, Motown Bombers said: And republicans aren't turning out. That is what we are hoping for! Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Sunday at 09:37 PM Posted Sunday at 09:37 PM 18 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: it's *always* projection with these guys - ALWAYS. Quote
LaceyLou Posted yesterday at 12:36 AM Posted yesterday at 12:36 AM Oh, no. This really sucks. https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/measles-outbreak-at-texas-immigration-detention-facility-confirmed-by-dhs-officials Quote
romad1 Posted yesterday at 01:32 AM Posted yesterday at 01:32 AM 7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I miss the Kennedy Center. Please go away Trump. However you need to. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted yesterday at 02:19 AM Posted yesterday at 02:19 AM 53 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: You can add all the money you want, with Trump there is no getting the trash out of the white-trash 2 Quote
guy incognito Posted yesterday at 02:22 AM Posted yesterday at 02:22 AM He’s not planning to “close it for two years”. He’s planning to bulldoze it to the ground and erect some gilded horror in its place as yet another monument to himself. I’m thinking modern-day Colosseum. Where he can stage his UFC matches or Hunger Games or damnatio ad bestias spectacles or whatever. 1 Quote
Screwball Posted yesterday at 02:30 AM Posted yesterday at 02:30 AM 2 minutes ago, guy incognito said: He’s not planning to “close it for two years”. He’s planning to bulldoze it to the ground and erect some gilded horror in its place as yet another monument to himself. I’m thinking modern-day Colosseum. Where he can stage his UFC matches or Hunger Games or damnatio ad bestias spectacles or whatever. He just booked an Indy car race in DC. Had Roger Penske at the WH. I'm sure Penske is known in these parts. I've always been a fan. His racing record is second to none. He might be a weasel **** like most are, but I think I could vote for him. He's too old now but his resume speaks for itself. Quote
guy incognito Posted yesterday at 02:32 AM Posted yesterday at 02:32 AM Time for The Onion to close up shop and call it a day. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted yesterday at 10:38 AM Posted yesterday at 10:38 AM 9 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: In other words; Artists are refusing to play there so I'm taking my ball and going home. Quote
romad1 Posted yesterday at 11:21 AM Posted yesterday at 11:21 AM (edited) Listening to John Hielemann on the morning Joe...he's saying the Fort Worth election swing last night was a huge alarm bell for the GOP. Says Dems body language (talking about gun rights, running on immigration, opening up offices to campaign in Texas and other ruby red areas) indicates they see this opportunity coming Edited yesterday at 11:22 AM by romad1 Quote
romad1 Posted yesterday at 11:35 AM Posted yesterday at 11:35 AM Some analysis...take it whatever grain of whatever thing you wish. https://www.gelliottmorris.com/p/blue-wave-watch-democrat-flips-trump Quote Notice that the swing to Democrats was not confined just to the suburbs or just the cities. This was a big blue shift everywhere. If anything, Democrats are doing just a bit better in the urban core — which would match the results from 2025, when Democrats outperformed with younger voters and Latinos. Quote
LaceyLou Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 9 hours ago, guy incognito said: He’s not planning to “close it for two years”. He’s planning to bulldoze it to the ground and erect some gilded horror in its place as yet another monument to himself. I’m thinking modern-day Colosseum. Where he can stage his UFC matches or Hunger Games or damnatio ad bestias spectacles or whatever. So maybe he's not HItler. Maybe he's really Nero. He just has to get a violin that he can play in case of a fire. 1 Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Someone is bigly upset about the Texas race 2 2 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: In other words; Artists are refusing to play there so I'm taking my ball and going home. Yup; Quote
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