Trumps Presidency 2025

[Sports_Freak]

10 hours ago, chasfh said:

Me, I’m glad I never turned it on in the first place.

I feel sorry for people who have to cover this guy for a living. It must be mentally, emotionally, and psychically exhausting.

I wanted to see if any Epstein victims started screaming at the orange turd. I was kinda hoping somebody pushed back on his lies or perversions. It sounds like a couple of Democrat politicians did yell at him. So he's telling to go back from where they came from. Pure racism from a racist and sexist disgusting pig.

[Sports_Freak]

10 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

So inflation is skyrocketing under Trump? 

The only reason this country even had inflation in the first place was because of that idiot mishandling of a virus that he turned into a pandemic. Obama left him a book on how to stop any virus in its tracks and the idiot ignored it. Biden was bringing the country back but now Trump has us on the edge of catastrophe.

[Tigeraholic1]

21 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

The only reason this country even had inflation in the first place was because of that idiot mishandling of a virus that he turned into a pandemic. Obama left him a book on how to stop any virus in its tracks and the idiot ignored it. Biden was bringing the country back but now Trump has us on the edge of catastrophe.

It's like blaming J6 but the covid version. 

[mtutiger]

9 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

and part of this is that we are in what John LeCarre would have called a 'silly season'. There used to be some level of separation between the office and then person or the politics. Like the line from Band of Brothers - "you salute the rank, not the man". 

But the problem is that is a two way street. When Presidents refrained from using the ceremonial aspects of the office for personal political ends, then they could expect people to respect the office irrespective of the occupant. But when the occupant doesn't respect the office or the institutions represented, then that level of respect from the public is likely to be withheld. But a lot of people are still sort of lost in transition - they may know full well Trump is jerk (even if they do vote GOP for tax purposes) but still think it's too rude to refuse the President - and of course a range of views on both sides around that. Trump is obviously a much more uniformly negative  figure for young independent women, so the difference in the response of the men's and women's team is not surprising.

Yep. When the President continually defiles the office (and the norms of the office), don't be surprised when people don't just give automatically give deference.

And for the record, I understand what Jack Hughes was saying when he said (paraphrasing) that things have gotten so political. I don't like it either. But the current President bears a lot of responsibility for that politicization of society at large, as much some (MAGA, some center left, mainstream media) want to ignore that reality

[mtutiger]

10 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

It's like blaming J6 but the covid version. 

So why do you think the American public has a negative impression of the President on the issue of inflation and the economy?

[gehringer_2]

47 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

So in other words inflation is under control. . 

and Trump had no part in it. Both can can be true and are.

This isn't that complex. When covid hit everyone thought the world was coming to an end and both the Federal gov and the Federal Reserve (but mostly the Federal Reserve) dumped a ton of dollars into the economy to tty to keep it afloat - and they overshot. That pig had to pass through the Python. By the time Trump was elected it was largely already through. Read some Milton Freedman. Inflation is at least 90% a monetary policy phenomenon. Presidents have very little to do with it. The national debt fuels it to some degree (and Trump has made that way worse) but that is still small potatoes to what the Fed reserve does. The real influence a Pres has is who he nominates for the Fed board. That's the funny part. Trump put Powell on the FR, then consistently hated what he did even though Powell has largely saved his ass.

 

Edited 9 hours ago by gehringer_2

[mtutiger]

5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

and Trump had no part in it. Both can can be true and are.

This isn't that complex. When covid hit everyone thought the world was coming to an end and both the Federal gov and the Federal Reserve (but mostly the Federal Reserve) dumped a ton of dollars into the economy to tty to keep it afloat - and they overshot. That pig had to pass through the Python. By the time Trump was elected it was largely already through. Read some Milton Freedman. Inflation is at least 90% a monetary policy phenomenon. Presidents have very little to do with it. The national debt fuels it to some degree (and Trump has made that way worse) but that is still small potatoes to what the Fed reserve does. The real influence a Pres has is who he nominates for the Fed board. That's the funny part. Trump put Powell on the FR, then consistently hated what he did even though Powell has largely saved his ass.

 

Just from a pure politics perspective, still think the self-inflicted harm from tariffs is a big driver of where he finds himself, regardless of what the overall inflation rate says.

It's literally been all downhill since Liberation Day

[romad1]

3 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Just from a pure politics perspective, still think the self-inflicted harm from tariffs is a big driver of where he finds himself, regardless of what the overall inflation rate says.

It's literally been all downhill since Liberation Day

That plus the slide into authoritarianism. 

[mtutiger]

2 minutes ago, romad1 said:

That plus the slide into authoritarianism. 

Was speaking more on how he squandered his advantage on the economy (something he always had until Liberation Day), although the slide into authoritarianism hasn't helped either

[pfife]

Trump said he would lower prices.   Thats different than controlling inflation.

[Tigeraholic1]

1st the Olympic Gold winning hockey team now Big Gretch? 

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Tigeraholic1

[Sports_Freak]

23 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

and Trump had no part in it. Both can can be true and are.

This isn't that complex. When covid hit everyone thought the world was coming to an end and both the Federal gov and the Federal Reserve (but mostly the Federal Reserve) dumped a ton of dollars into the economy to tty to keep it afloat - and they overshot. That pig had to pass through the Python. By the time Trump was elected it was largely already through. Read some Milton Freedman. Inflation is at least 90% a monetary policy phenomenon. Presidents have very little to do with it. The national debt fuels it to some degree (and Trump has made that way worse) but that is still small potatoes to what the Fed reserve does. The real influence a Pres has is who he nominates for the Fed board. That's the funny part. Trump put Powell on the FR, then consistently hated what he did even though Powell has largely saved his ass.

 

Look at Fauci when he tried to guide Trump on how to fight a novel pandemic...Maga turned on him when Trump told them to. Look at Pence, who did his best to save democracy...Maga turned on him when Dinald told them to. The bottom line is Trump has zero loyalty to people in his orbit who try to help him or our country. Either lie for Trump or you're dead to him.

[Sports_Freak]

6 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

1st the Olympic Gold winning hockey team now Big Gretch? 

 

 

Pure politics. Want something from Trump? Stroke his ego and tell him how wonderful he is. Like trying to get a 3 year old to eat their vegetables. I absolutely guarantee she has nothing nice to say about the idiot in private.

[ewsieg]

9 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

1st the Olympic Gold winning hockey team now Big Gretch? 

She knows how to play him.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I have long believed that professional sports is filled with narcissistic "alpha males" and that I wouldn't enjoying hanging out with most of them on a regular basis.  They are not my friends though, so it doesn't matter.  They are great entertainers.

They’re the guys you avoided during middle school and high school because they might give you a swirly at any given moment.

[romad1]

Gretch needs to keep the F-35 for Selfridge.  Jesus.  Please keep the F-35 for Selfridge. 

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, mtutiger said:

I usually turn on my TV or pull up whatever app a game I want to watch happens to be on, and then I watch. Usually MLB, a little bit of NFL and NCAA Hoops. Less time with two kids tho

That’s fair. Watch the game for its intrinsic beauty, don’t follow teams or invest your fandom in players. That’s how I watch cricket during the winter, because I have no team and don’t know players, and it’s a very nice, zen way to enjoy a sportscast.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, mtutiger said:

I don't think or care about their politics. Imagine most fans are like this. But when they go out and do stupid **** that draws attention to their politics, why wouldn't one expect people in the broader public to cast judgment on them?

It's no different than when Matt Shaw decided to go skip out on his teammates to attend Charlie Kirk's funeral. I'm guessing many Cubs fans had no clue one way or another about his politics, or if they did, didn't care that much about it. But he made a choice in that moment to draw attention toward his politics and it altered some fans' perception of him as a person. Fair or unfair

Just don't find that outcome as being particularly surprising... When athletes get political, the broader public is inevitably going to hold opinions (good or bad)

This is a core reason I don’t care to know anything about players as people. It’s not that I don’t like them as people—after all, I don’t know them as people IRL—but their personhood, which occurs exclusively outside my purview, is simply not germane to my preferred way to understand them.

When I follow a team, which is by necessity populated with players, I build a profile of those players in my mind, and that profile is about only their performance in games. In that sense, I care only about the player and what he does on the field, not the person and what he does off it.

This is why I don’t care a thing about who a player dates, or who his wife and kids are, or what his charities are, what he wears on the red carpet, what he does for fun away from the game, what his opinions are, any of that. I don’t want to know any of this because the more I know, the more a fleshed-out person he becomes, and then what he does or says something awful, I end up disappointed in them as people, and I don’t want that. Miggy and his two families is a good example of that. Why did I need to know that about him? How am I to factor that into my appreciation of him as a player? How can I not let it affect my view of him? How can I root for him without reservation anymore? I don’t want to have to think about that.

Let the players be people to the people who know them personally, away from the game. To me, and as it relates strictly to my enjoyment of being a fan, I would prefer them to be only players.

Edited 8 hours ago by chasfh

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

So why do you think the American public has a negative impression of the President on the issue of inflation and the economy?

Please stop.

[mtutiger]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

Please stop.

No

[romad1]

do the two GOP members of the minnesota congressional delegation not have medicaid recipients in their districts? 

[Tigeraholic1]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Was speaking more on how he squandered his advantage on the economy (something he always had until Liberation Day), although the slide into authoritarianism hasn't helped either

I work in auto industry and no one is laying off just hiring. Unless you take into account EV but the big 3 look at that as sunk losses. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Tigeraholic1

[romad1]

interesting

 

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The primary culprit for this accelerated depletion is a sharp reduction in the fund’s projected income, heavily driven by legislation passed over the last year. Specifically, the 2025 reconciliation act (Public Law 119-21, more commonly known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act) significantly reduced the revenues the trust fund normally receives from taxing Social Security benefits. This legislation lowered tax rates and established a temporary deduction for taxpayers age 65 or older. Consequently, this major policy shift enacted during the Trump administration has directly contributed to starving the Medicare safety net of critical future funding.

 

[CMRivdogs]

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