sagnam Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Speaking of unhinged Ndamukong Suh: I should have been paid more than Matthew Stafford in Detroit 1 Quote
romad1 Posted July 22 Posted July 22 48 minutes ago, sagnam said: Speaking of unhinged Ndamukong Suh: I should have been paid more than Matthew Stafford in Detroit I think rectal cancer has a new name. Now medical professionals will call it "Suh". Apologies to anyone who has had rectal cancer or family members of those who have. Quote
Jason_R Posted July 22 Posted July 22 I just heard that Vegas has the Lions at number five for Super Bowl odds and Hutch at number one for DPOY odds. If you ask me, if Hutch has a season like he started to have last season, that is a DPOY season and this is a Super Bowl team. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted July 23 Posted July 23 2 hours ago, Jason_R said: I just heard that Vegas has the Lions at number five for Super Bowl odds and Hutch at number one for DPOY odds. If you ask me, if Hutch has a season like he started to have last season, that is a DPOY season and this is a Super Bowl team. The offensive line is the question mark for me. I don't think we will be the top three unit we were the last two years. Can we still be top ten? Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted July 23 Posted July 23 43 minutes ago, romad1 said: Is this real? Justin Rogers doesn't miss so I'm sure it's real. Not sure if we will get them for the HOF Game though. Quote
RedRamage Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 hour ago, romad1 said: Is this real? Can we request Benetti for regular season games too?? Quote
Shinzaki Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 hour ago, RedRamage said: Can we request Benetti for regular season games too?? Joe Buck says bite me 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Glasgow at center makes the most sense to me. Ratledge can they take over center next year. I believe that's how they worked in Ragnow. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted July 24 Posted July 24 3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Glasgow at center makes the most sense to me. Ratledge can they take over center next year. I believe that's how they worked in Ragnow. I agree. You need the experience at center if the center is going to call out coverages (as is almost always the case). Let Ratledge start next to the veteran and learn how the position is played, then take over in 2026. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Doesn't seem like a Campbell guy, but sure would be intriguing. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted July 25 Posted July 25 3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Doesn't seem like a Campbell guy, but sure would be intriguing. You almost never hear about stuff like voiding a contract for failure to rehab. Maybe it’s what happened, but it feels super difficult to prove. I’ll be interested to see the result of the grievance. Quote
Jason_R Posted July 25 Posted July 25 The story I read on NFL.com was unclear but it seems like the team wanted him to have a second surgery after his first surgery didn't fix things, and he has been seeking other opinions. I wonder if they think his foot is shot and are using "failure to rehab" as a pretext to claw back some guaranteed money. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted Friday at 02:56 PM Posted Friday at 02:56 PM Injured players are Brad Holmes guys for sure because they come cheaper than the market rate. If the guy can still play football and the character lines up with us organizationally, I could see Brad picking up the phone on him. The Raiders as an organization under the Davis ownership haven't exactly been beacons of high moral character and a passion for winning football themselves. I'd bet we would at least look into Wilkins give our current situation at DT with no Levi and no Alim. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted Friday at 03:33 PM Posted Friday at 03:33 PM 2 hours ago, Jason_R said: The story I read on NFL.com was unclear but it seems like the team wanted him to have a second surgery after his first surgery didn't fix things, and he has been seeking other opinions. I wonder if they think his foot is shot and are using "failure to rehab" as a pretext to claw back some guaranteed money. I saw this from some Raiders beat guys that had apparently been reporting this for a few weeks now. I do think “a fundamental difference of opinion related to treatment course” is a very different story than “failure to rehab” — one is a story of bodily autonomy and the other paints a story of laziness. If it is indeed the former, and Wilkins is a guy who doesn’t think he’s injured and wants to play right now, I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing him in on a one-year small money deal. Let him prove the world wrong. I don’t think that’s against the Brady Holmes philosophy either. IIRC, Wilkins is a really good guy in the locker room, at least from his days with the Dolphins. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 04:10 PM Posted Friday at 04:10 PM The Lions were interested in Wilkins before he signed with the Raiders. The Raiders just gave him way more than the Lions were willing to spend. Quote
RedRamage Posted Friday at 04:58 PM Posted Friday at 04:58 PM On 7/24/2025 at 11:38 AM, Motown Bombers said: Glasgow at center makes the most sense to me. Ratledge can they take over center next year. I believe that's how they worked in Ragnow. I tend to agree... but I'm also gonna defer to people much smarter than I when it comes to football and the OL. If the staff things Ratledge can cut it and do it better than Glasgow, then obviously go for it. Still it seems like it's be easier on Ratledge to not have to learn the NFL AND learn a new position in the same year. Quote
4hzglory Posted Friday at 05:08 PM Posted Friday at 05:08 PM 8 minutes ago, RedRamage said: I tend to agree... but I'm also gonna defer to people much smarter than I when it comes to football and the OL. If the staff things Ratledge can cut it and do it better than Glasgow, then obviously go for it. Still it seems like it's be easier on Ratledge to not have to learn the NFL AND learn a new position in the same year. I'm with you. It makes logical sense, but if they think Ratledge can cut it, especially with Goff's help at the line, then I trust them. I trust them to do what is best for the overall line. 1 Quote
RedRamage Posted Friday at 05:08 PM Posted Friday at 05:08 PM 1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said: If it is indeed the former, and Wilkins is a guy who doesn’t think he’s injured and wants to play right now, I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing him in on a one-year small money deal. Let him prove the world wrong. I don’t think that’s against the Brady Holmes philosophy either. IIRC, Wilkins is a really good guy in the locker room, at least from his days with the Dolphins. Obviously, it's going to depend on the foot. If the Lions' docs look at it and conclude that he's healthy to play now, then I'd definitely say go for it. To be totally cold and analytical about it: If this is a situation where the Raiders are saying: "We're concerned that if you don't get the second surgery you'll re-injure the foot and be out for an even longer period of time." Well, that's not so much an issue for the Lions if they sign him to a one-year "prove it" deal. For the Lions they need short term help until Alim is back. If Wilkins plays for 6-8 games, re-injures the foot and out for the season... well, that's about the time that I'd expect Alim to be thinking of coming back, as well as some time for Tyleik to learn the NFL and possibly be ready to step up to a bigger role. Now, putting a little humanity back on: I'd hate to the Lions to go into a situation like this with the idea that they could "use up" Wilkins and then just spit him out. I would want my team to look out for the player first. But the reality is that the Lions are in a position where it'd be great for some short term help at DT without major concerns if the help only lasts 1/2 a season. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted Friday at 07:46 PM Posted Friday at 07:46 PM 2 hours ago, RedRamage said: Obviously, it's going to depend on the foot. I agree with everything you posted, but when I first read this my immediate thought was "why would it matter whether it's his right or left foot??" Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Friday at 07:56 PM Posted Friday at 07:56 PM 9 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I agree with everything you posted, but when I first read this my immediate thought was "why would it matter whether it's his right or left foot??" Because you always want to get off on the right foot. 1 1 Quote
Shinzaki Posted Friday at 08:00 PM Posted Friday at 08:00 PM 2 hours ago, RedRamage said: Now, putting a little humanity back on: I'd hate to the Lions to go into a situation like this with the idea that they could "use up" Wilkins and then just spit him out. I would want my team to look out for the player first. But the reality is that the Lions are in a position where it'd be great for some short term help at DT without major concerns if the help only lasts 1/2 a season. ooohhh...look at Mr Morals and Ethics Quote
Jason_R Posted Friday at 09:09 PM Posted Friday at 09:09 PM Quote “We took a long time to make our decision,” Carroll said. “We watched our way through the whole thing. We’re keeping it really clear with what we said. I think there was no clear path to his return, so we just had to move on.” His comments largely echoed the statement issued by the Las Vegas organization on Thursday. The Raiders didn’t mince worse with an unusually strongly-worded statement, saying that Wilkins failed to provide a “clear path or plan for future return to play.” Wilkins was injured in Week 5 last season and had some sort of setback in his recovery that took him out of offseason practices and landed him on the physically unable to perform list shortly before training camp opened Wednesday. PUP, nobody knows when he can play. https://www.tristatehomepage.com/sports/ap-pete-carroll-says-raiders-didnt-rush-into-decision-to-release-christian-wilkins/ Quote
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