Michigan Football 2025: Rebuilding an offense, hoping our defense remains solid

[Mr.TaterSalad]

25 minutes ago, buddha said:

cignetti isnt coming to michigan.  

If Lane Kiffin has taught us anything, it's that loyalty can be bought by the next highest bidder. The right dollar amount makes anyone go anywhere. Honor is as high as the last number on the check.

[buddha]

12 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

If Lane Kiffin has taught us anything, it's that loyalty can be bought by the next highest bidder. The right dollar amount makes anyone go anywhere. Honor is as high as the last number on the check.

lane kiffin would sell his mother for .50 cents.  that's not a good analogy.

1) if cignetti could be bought now, he would be at penn state.  2) michigan is not paying $15 million to a head football coach now, and neither is larry ellison.

if sherrone moore doesnt work out michigan will be in trouble because they have show no ability to hire a good football coach that doesnt fall right into their laps.  but the next michigan head football coach is likely someone who has ties to the university already.  a "michigan man".  which is another reason why they will be in trouble.  they found dusty may and john beilein through search firms.  they got rich rod because they bungled les miles (and lloyd didnt like les), they got hoke because theyre dumb, and they got sherrone because theyre lazy and not ruthless.

michigan was never going to pay that money and cignetti was never going to accept it if they did offer it.

[Hongbit]

Cignetti is an outlier.   People don’t become the next big thing at age 64.  He’s on his last go around as a coach and it doesn’t make sense changing up what he’s worked 40 years to have happen.  

I do believe almost any coach can be bought by a blue blood program like Michigan.  
 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

59 minutes ago, buddha said:

lane kiffin would sell his mother for .50 cents.  that's not a good analogy.

1) if cignetti could be bought now, he would be at penn state.  2) michigan is not paying $15 million to a head football coach now, and neither is larry ellison.

if sherrone moore doesnt work out michigan will be in trouble because they have show no ability to hire a good football coach that doesnt fall right into their laps.  but the next michigan head football coach is likely someone who has ties to the university already.  a "michigan man".  which is another reason why they will be in trouble.  they found dusty may and john beilein through search firms.  they got rich rod because they bungled les miles (and lloyd didnt like les), they got hoke because theyre dumb, and they got sherrone because theyre lazy and not ruthless.

michigan was never going to pay that money and cignetti was never going to accept it if they did offer it.

Lot's of coaches say they are going to be at a program for life or are there to stay for the long-term and then leave. If Sherrone doesn't end up working out Michigan would be stupid not to call Cignetti. If he says no and you can't buy him away from Indiana then you move on. But you absolutely have to extend the olive branch to a guy like that.

It is my sincere hope that we never cross that bridge because Sherrone ends up working out. It seems unlikely, but I hope it happens. I'm willing to give Sherrone another full season and see what he can do with two solid recruiting classes. The two things he absolutely must do this offseason is get a QB coach/OC in who can help develop Underwood and bring in some talent at WR. If he can't get those things done, he's likely going to struggle again next year and be an 8-9 win team.

[buddha]

3 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Lot's of coaches say they are going to be at a program for life or are there to stay for the long-term and then leave. If Sherrone doesn't end up working out Michigan would be stupid not to call Cignetti. If he says no and you can't buy him away from Indiana then you move on. But you absolutely have to extend the olive branch to a guy like that.

It is my sincere hope that we never cross that bridge because Sherrone ends up working out. It seems unlikely, but I hope it happens. I'm willing to give Sherrone another full season and see what he can do with two solid recruiting classes. The two things he absolutely must do this offseason is get a QB coach/OC in who can help develop Underwood and bring in some talent at WR. If he can't get those things done, he's likely going to struggle again next year and be an 8-9 win team.

why would cignetti reject penn state?

[buddha]

4 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Cignetti is an outlier.   People don’t become the next big thing at age 64.  He’s on his last go around as a coach and it doesn’t make sense changing up what he’s worked 40 years to have happen.  

I do believe almost any coach can be bought by a blue blood program like Michigan.  
 

not pat fitzgerald.  

i dont think michigan's job would be enticing to every coach.  MOST coaches.  but not all of them.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

16 minutes ago, buddha said:

why would cignetti reject penn state?

Do we even know that he did? Where was there a report that Penn State requested an interview with Cignetti?

[buddha]

3 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Do we even know that he did? Where was there a report that Penn State requested an interview with Cignetti?

i dont know, because he signed with indiana really quickly after franklin was fired, kelly was fired, and florida's coach was fired.

[romad1]

Today has been meh.  The D has trouble stopping an NFL WR.  Shocker.  Bryce has had a couple good throws and his receivers are helping him out a bit.  Bell's TD was a stroke of luck. 

[buddha]

college refs are absolute garbage.

[Adullin]

It just has to break the plane. 

[Deleterious]

Raja Bell was not an NBA star.  

[Tigeraholic1]

Michigan lol

[Klondike]

Another game vs. Texas another loss. Ho Hum. 

[romad1]

Worse still, I'm caught up on time shift on my DVR.  I have to learn which guy woke up feeling the cheeziest. 

[buddha]

19 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Michigan lol

obsessed.

[gehringer_2]

38 minutes ago, Klondike said:

Another game vs. Texas another loss. Ho Hum. 

maybe the most meaningless game  to all concerned that M has ever played in December.

[Hongbit]

The game was meaningless but the 5 horrible overthrows in a row on sideline touch passes at the end of the game from Underwood were concerning.   No concept on how to make that throw with each time being a little worse than the one before.  He’s got a whole lot of work to do before next year. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Hongbit

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

The game was meaningless but the 5 horrible overthrows in a row on sideline touch passes at the end of the game from Underwood were concerning.   No concept on how to make that throw with each time being a little worse than the one before.  He’s got a whole lot of work to do before next year. 

Touch doesn't seem to be in his repertoire - but I wonder if he would even have been there but his NIL deal probably required it.

He's a fabulous athlete that can make throws few guys can, but I haven't seen much evidence yet there is actually a QB in there yet (as in between his ears).

Edited 5 hours ago by gehringer_2

[romad1]

I liked what I saw from the return team on ST.  Coombs might not be terrible at that. 

Semaj Morgan was almost usable.  I think real coaching of the QB will be needed.  

[buddha]

bryce underwood is a true freshman, nothing he did or didnt do today is "concerning" to anyone.

[romad1]

16 minutes ago, buddha said:

bryce underwood is a true freshman, nothing he did or didnt do today is "concerning" to anyone.

The JJ comp is always there.  JJ was pretty decent in the Georgia playoff game but he was by no means a finished product.   I think the Casula game plan was ok.  Lets hope Whittingham brings better though. 

[buddha]

12 minutes ago, romad1 said:

The JJ comp is always there.  JJ was pretty decent in the Georgia playoff game but he was by no means a finished product.   I think the Casula game plan was ok.  Lets hope Whittingham brings better though. 

no marshall and no haynes really hurt them.

but ultimately it didnt matter because the defense is so poorly coached.  i imagine whittingham will fix that.

[romad1]

1 hour ago, buddha said:

no marshall and no haynes really hurt them.

but ultimately it didnt matter because the defense is so poorly coached.  i imagine whittingham will fix that.

They should definitely have the talent to win a national championship.  

[gehringer_2]

24 minutes ago, romad1 said:

They should definitely have the talent to win a national championship.  

depending on who is left after the portal shuffling is over.