Michigan Football 2025: Rebuilding an offense, hoping our defense remains solid

[Hongbit]

10 hours ago, buddha said:

bryce underwood is a true freshman, nothing he did or didnt do today is "concerning" to anyone.

I’d agree earlier in the year but this was his 13th start.   You can’t keep falling back on that excuse.    Look how far off these are and it’s the same throw 4 times in a row.  It wouldn’t take Davis Warren or Jack Tuttle 5 or more tries to make that throw.  It looks like a skill that he’s a long way from grasping.  

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Hongbit

[romad1]

OSU = cats.  

[Tigeraholic1]

11 hours ago, buddha said:

bryce underwood is a true freshman, nothing he did or didnt do today is "concerning" to anyone.

Anthony Richardson 2.0

Edited 1 hour ago by Tigeraholic1

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

I’d agree earlier in the year but this was his 13th start.   You can’t keep falling back on that excuse.    Look how far off these are and it’s the same throw 4 times in a row.  It wouldn’t take Davis Warren or Jack Tuttle 5 or more tries to make that throw.  It looks like a skill that he’s a long way from grasping.  

 

I might give him #2 and #3 as throwing it away because a pick was as likely as a catch. Of course if those guys were covered why did he throw there - what were his other options supposed to be? Who knows?

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[MichiganCardinal]

I'm willing to admit that despite watching plenty of high school, college, and NFL football, I am not nearly knowledgeable enough to see a 17-year-old quarterback play and say "yeah, he's worth $10MM next year." Clearly there are folks out there on Michigan (and LSU's, and Rivals/On3/ESPN) staff who fancy themselves that good.

That said, I really don't know how you look at Underwood against a high school schedule including teams like Fordson, Ann Arbor Pioneer, and Wayne Memorial and say "yep he's the one. Five stars. Future NFL talent. Let's play him immediately against Oklahoma, Ohio State, and Texas." Hell, in his last high school game against Catholic Central (a very good team) he went 11/23 for 219 yards, 1 TD and 2 INTs.

It's not just Underwood either. I'm not convinced there is any 18-year-old in the world who should play Big Ten or SEC football as a true freshman in the year 2025, especially not at quarterback. The game is too fast, too physical, the defenses are too good, and you're just asking to get him hurt or to delay his development.

[romad1]

4 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I'm willing to admit that despite watching plenty of high school, college, and NFL football, I am not nearly knowledgeable enough to see a 17-year-old quarterback play and say "yeah, he's worth $10MM next year." Clearly there are folks out there on Michigan (and LSU's, and Rivals/On3/ESPN) staff who fancy themselves that good.

That said, I really don't know how you look at Underwood against a high school schedule including teams like Fordson, Ann Arbor Pioneer, and Wayne Memorial and say "yep he's the one. Five stars. Future NFL talent. Let's play him immediately against Oklahoma, Ohio State, and Texas." Hell, in his last high school game against Catholic Central (a very good team) he went 11/23 for 219 yards, 1 TD and 2 INTs.

It's not just Underwood either. I'm not convinced there is any 18-year-old in the world who should play Big Ten or SEC football as a true freshman in the year 2025, especially not at quarterback. The game is too fast, too physical, the defenses are too good, and you're just asking to get him hurt or to delay his development.

Yeah, I would have loved it if there was a Cade Mcnamara to use as a bridge between JJ and Bryce.   Didn't happen.  

Sherrone was playing his hand as he saw it for his own self-preservation... and a better, more experienced coach, who wasn't a sex pest would have done things differently. 

[MichiganCardinal]

19 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Yeah, I would have loved it if there was a Cade Mcnamara to use as a bridge between JJ and Bryce.   Didn't happen.  

Sherrone was playing his hand as he saw it for his own self-preservation... and a better, more experienced coach, who wasn't a sex pest would have done things differently. 

Setting aside Moore being a closeted basket case for a moment, it was grossly negligent of him to not get a competent quarterback in the transfer portal. They didn't even have to be good, they just needed to be better than 9/12 for 73 yards bowl performance Davis Warren.

By not doing so, starting Underwood was the only decision. Moore went 8-5 fresh off a national championship. Good grace was fading fast, he got saved by the NIL donors in landing Underwood, and his choices were trotting out Davis Warren again and hoping a worse defense could win more games, or starting a true freshman. Any coach would have started Underwood, but a good coach wouldn't have been forced to in the first place.