romad1 Posted September 22 Author Posted September 22 3 minutes ago, buddha said: anyone can win at osu nowadays. money machine works in the open now instead of behind the scenes. I was thinking the Wisconsin folks were really upset he'd tilted the Wisconsin offense toward the OSU model and away from the prime beef OL/Running games of years past. Quote
buddha Posted September 22 Posted September 22 4 hours ago, romad1 said: I was thinking the Wisconsin folks were really upset he'd tilted the Wisconsin offense toward the OSU model and away from the prime beef OL/Running games of years past. they should be. it was what made wisconsin competitive. as nebraska discovered after they abandoned their history to run a spread offense, the football gods do not forget. Quote
romad1 Posted September 22 Author Posted September 22 3 hours ago, Deleterious said: Win and nobody cares what offense you run. As Rich Rod learned. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted September 22 Posted September 22 13 hours ago, buddha said: anyone can win at osu nowadays. money machine works in the open now instead of behind the scenes. Yeah, that is the only reason OSU is good. Right. Luke Fickel did coach at OSU, he went 6-7. The very next year Urban Meyer went 12-0. I think coaching is important no matter where you are. Quote
Deleterious Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Kalen DeBoer is currently playing the Luke Fickel role in Alabama. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 48 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said: Yeah, that is the only reason OSU is good. Right. Luke Fickel did coach at OSU, he went 6-7. The very next year Urban Meyer went 12-0. I think coaching is important no matter where you are. I think I'd put it the other way around - in the game today, no matter how good a coach you are you are not going to win if your school isn't competitive on resources. That is probably my biggest disappointment/worry about where college sports are going. How many schools are going find themselves net diverting student tuition into their sports programs just to keep up in a system where their sports programs cannot be self-sufficient? That's going to be a terrible outcome. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted September 22 Posted September 22 3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: I think I'd put it the other way around - in the game today, no matter how good a coach you are you are not going to win if your school isn't competitive on resources. That is probably my biggest disappointment/worry about where college sports are going. How many schools are going find themselves net diverting student tuition into their sports programs just to keep up in a system where their sports programs cannot be self-sufficient? That's going to be a terrible outcome. And yet Coach Cignetting took Indiana to the playoffs his first year going 11-1 in the regular season and just beat a top 10 opponent on Saturday 63-10 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 (edited) 19 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said: And yet Coach Cignetting took Indiana to the playoffs his first year going 11-1 in the regular season and just beat a top 10 opponent on Saturday 63-10 Indiana's has been selling more tickets the last couple of years, is making upgrades on the stadium and player facilities, signed a $50M deal with a local bank - they haven't been standing still. With the caveat that this an AI mined number, the IU AD revenue was $173M last year. They are playing in the big leagues now monetarily. It's not the same Hoosier program DiNardo and Cameron worked for. Edited September 22 by gehringer_2 Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted September 22 Posted September 22 8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Indiana's has been selling more tickets the last couple of years, is making upgrades on the stadium and player facilities, signed a $50M deal with a local bank - they haven't been standing still. With the caveat that this an AI mined number, the IU AD revenue was $173M last year. They are playing in the big leagues now monetarily. It's not the same Hoosier program DiNardo and Cameron worked for. That is all well and good, but look at their roster. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 (edited) 20 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said: That is all well and good, but look at their roster. He probably has a good number of players that are better than people think they are/thought they would be - So OK - I have to give you unheralded talent spotting piece. I guess the test will be if he keeps winning are his guys going to end up in the NFL or not even if they weren't heralded recruits? I'm so much an MLB guy I tend to forget a college coach is his own GM/Scouting department beside the X's and O's. Edited September 22 by gehringer_2 Quote
romad1 Posted September 22 Author Posted September 22 42 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Indiana's has been selling more tickets the last couple of years, is making upgrades on the stadium and player facilities, signed a $50M deal with a local bank - they haven't been standing still. With the caveat that this an AI mined number, the IU AD revenue was $173M last year. They are playing in the big leagues now monetarily. It's not the same Hoosier program DiNardo and Cameron worked for. Did I hear correctly somewhere that they have the largest alumni base in the country? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 42 minutes ago, romad1 said: Did I hear correctly somewhere that they have the largest alumni base in the country? would that be just Bloomington or the IU system though? Quote
romad1 Posted September 22 Author Posted September 22 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: would that be just Bloomington or the IU system though? Either way, that's a lucrative resource. I know a lot of journalists went through the Ernie Pyle school and propagated nationwide. If you are going to name your school of journalism after an alumn...you could do a lot worse. Quote
buddha Posted September 22 Posted September 22 indiana spent a lot of money on that team. they have one of the better qbs in the country. also, they had a great season last year and got plastered when they played the only two elite teams on their schedule. heck, they almost lost to michigan! Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted September 23 Posted September 23 16 hours ago, buddha said: indiana spent a lot of money on that team. they have one of the better qbs in the country. also, they had a great season last year and got plastered when they played the only two elite teams on their schedule. heck, they almost lost to michigan! I don't know what to think of Indiana. Everyone is freaking out about that destruction of Illinois - but, I feel like it is very possible Illinois is not a good team. Regardless, the win was impressive, though. Will be interesting to see what happens when they play Oregon. Quote
buddha Posted September 23 Posted September 23 3 hours ago, RedTeamGo! said: I don't know what to think of Indiana. Everyone is freaking out about that destruction of Illinois - but, I feel like it is very possible Illinois is not a good team. Regardless, the win was impressive, though. Will be interesting to see what happens when they play Oregon. i think indiana has a good qb and good head coach. illinois was very overrated, but beating any team big ten team not named ucla 63-10 is an accomplishment. indiana has invested a lot of money in its program and players, they have a good coach, and it shows. i'd put them in the "next in line" tier in the big ten, behind osu, oregon, penn state, michigan, and usc. but in front of nebraska, wisconsin, michigan state, illinois, iowa, washington. big game between osu and washington. i think osu wins a shootout, but washington is a potential powerhouse and jedd fisch can coach (offense...). Quote
Deleterious Posted September 30 Posted September 30 Everything I read about this past weekend's concert said the athletic department put the show on. That is a nice little revenue booster for the football team. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 30 Posted September 30 35 minutes ago, Deleterious said: Everything I read about this past weekend's concert said the athletic department put the show on. That is a nice little revenue booster for the football team. Well, they were short one gate on the football schedule weren't they? Quote
Deleterious Posted September 30 Posted September 30 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: Well, they were short one gate on the football schedule weren't they? Yep. Gary Graff said it was a huge success and to expect more concerts in the future. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 30 Posted September 30 4 hours ago, Deleterious said: Yep. Gary Graff said it was a huge success and to expect more concerts in the future. A friend of mine is on the event staff (ushering/gates etc). Said his head was ringing afterward even after having used the management supplied earplugs and being mostly on the concourse. Deafness is going to be the big epidemic in the generations since the earbud and Class D audio amps. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted October 4 Posted October 4 Wisconsin scores on their first drive. Where is TP to call for Wink Martindale's instant firing? Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted October 4 Posted October 4 I used to like Gus Johnson, but find him very annoying now. Quote
buddha Posted October 4 Posted October 4 i think michigan's running back's performance against nebraska says more about nebraska's dline than michigan's actual running game. or maybe the team sucks now that sherrone is back in charge? 1 Quote
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