Klondike Posted Monday at 03:20 PM Posted Monday at 03:20 PM (edited) On 7/5/2025 at 3:36 PM, chasfh said: Related to this, I really really hate looking up stats on Reference and seeing ATH instead of OAK. Speaking of unrelated stats. I was browsing Baseball Reference and was curious to discover Oakland A's great Blue 'Moon' Odom had a higher WAR as a hitter ( 3.4 ) than pitcher ( 2.2 ). I knew he was a good hitting pitcher but thought he had a better pitching career... had some bad seasons I guess.. Edited Monday at 03:21 PM by Klondike 1 Quote
Hongbit Posted Monday at 03:35 PM Posted Monday at 03:35 PM 32 minutes ago, Hongbit said: What’s boosting the WAR of his stats? 247/306/349 with 11HR and 43 RBI. That 655 OPS is horrendous. He’s stolen 15 bags on 83% efficiency but I thought that was weighted much less. I think the rebirth of Jo Adell is definitely all star worthy. His WAR is full point less than Julio despite 8 more HRs, 9 more RBI, and almost 180 points better in OPS. He’s only 3/3 on stolen bases but that can’t be that big of difference, correct? Quote
chasfh Posted Monday at 03:50 PM Posted Monday at 03:50 PM 51 minutes ago, Hongbit said: What’s boosting the WAR of his stats? 247/306/349 with 11HR and 43 RBI. That 655 OPS is horrendous. He’s stolen 15 bags on 83% efficiency but I thought that was weighted much less. Julio's defense is. Point being it's not as though Arozarena is blowing Julio out of the water when it comes to winning games for his team. Julio wins the tiebreaker on the star-marketing attribute. Quote
chasfh Posted Monday at 03:51 PM Posted Monday at 03:51 PM 30 minutes ago, Klondike said: Speaking of unrelated stats. I was browsing Baseball Reference and was curious to discover Oakland A's great Blue 'Moon' Odom had a higher WAR as a hitter ( 3.4 ) than pitcher ( 2.2 ). I knew he was a good hitting pitcher but thought he had a better pitching career... had some bad seasons I guess.. Whoa, wait, that's for his whole career? daaaaamn ... Quote
lordstanley Posted Monday at 04:12 PM Posted Monday at 04:12 PM Yankees broadcaster and Jays broadcaster have a beef. The first is arrogant, the other's a dork. https://nypost.com/2025/07/06/sports/michael-kay-claps-back-at-fawning-fanboy-blue-jays-broadcaster/ 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted Monday at 04:12 PM Posted Monday at 04:12 PM (edited) 54 minutes ago, Klondike said: Speaking of unrelated stats. I was browsing Baseball Reference and was curious to discover Oakland A's great Blue 'Moon' Odom had a higher WAR as a hitter ( 3.4 ) than pitcher ( 2.2 ). I knew he was a good hitting pitcher but thought he had a better pitching career... had some bad seasons I guess.. He had a couple of pretty good years, but he was so overrated. Everybody just loved his nickname. I love your hitter WAR > pitcher WAR factoid though! Edited Monday at 04:14 PM by Tiger337 1 Quote
papalawrence Posted Monday at 05:34 PM Posted Monday at 05:34 PM Odom did close out the Tigers in 1972. He sucks! Quote
IdahoBert Posted Monday at 05:40 PM Posted Monday at 05:40 PM 1 hour ago, lordstanley said: Yankees broadcaster and Jays broadcaster have a beef. The first is arrogant, the other's a dork. https://nypost.com/2025/07/06/sports/michael-kay-claps-back-at-fawning-fanboy-blue-jays-broadcaster/ This is the kind of thing that my daughters would roll their eyes over and say “it’s such a boy thing.“ Quote
IdahoBert Posted Monday at 06:03 PM Posted Monday at 06:03 PM Didn’t Charlie Finley assign colorful names to his players just to make things more colorful, exciting, and quirky? Quote
IdahoBert Posted Monday at 07:39 PM Posted Monday at 07:39 PM Just saw that Nats Dave Martinez was fired on Sunday along with general manager Mike Rizzo. I somehow missed the earlier posts on this. It’s amazing that they won the World Series in 2019 then couldn’t do a thing after that. This is a hard game. Quote
Hongbit Posted Monday at 08:32 PM Posted Monday at 08:32 PM Miguel Cairo has been named the Nats manager. He joins 3/4 of managers in the league as a longtime journeyman player to find his calling as an MLB skipper. Shockingly, he never played catcher. Quote
casimir Posted Monday at 10:22 PM Posted Monday at 10:22 PM 1 hour ago, Hongbit said: Miguel Cairo has been named the Nats manager. He joins 3/4 of managers in the league as a longtime journeyman player to find his calling as an MLB skipper. Shockingly, he never played catcher. Wow, 9 teams? I didn't think he was that much of a journeyman. That's an impressive cache of jerseys that he could have from his playing days. Quote
Tenacious D Posted Tuesday at 12:11 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:11 AM (edited) 4 hours ago, IdahoBert said: Just saw that Nats Dave Martinez was fired on Sunday along with general manager Mike Rizzo. I somehow missed the earlier posts on this. It’s amazing that they won the World Series in 2019 then couldn’t do a thing after that. This is a hard game. Bert—want to get you up to speed on a few other things you might have missed. -Miggy retired two seasons ago. -Tampa Bay and Colorado now have MLB franchises. -Led Zeppelin officially broke up. -Women can now vote. Let me know if I can fill in any other blanks. Edited Tuesday at 12:13 AM by Tenacious D Quote
Tiger337 Posted Tuesday at 01:47 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:47 AM When I search my name in google or perplexity, a picture of Bobby Grich shows up. I can guess the connection (a Hall lof Fame discusiion somewhere involving Lou Whitaker), but I hated Bobby Grich so it's annoying. Quote
Tenacious D Posted Tuesday at 03:21 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:21 AM I find myself, like others, doing a lot of scoreboard watching. In addition to seeing if the teams in our division lost, I also care about Houston and Yankees losing, so we can avoid the Wild Card round. I also want the Dodgers to lose so that we have supremacy over them. Also, I like seeing teams that are on the bubble for Wild Card contention in each league lose, so ideally there will be more sellers than buyers at the deadline. Basically, I want almost every team losing. And I want everything painted black, black as night. 1 Quote
papalawrence Posted Tuesday at 03:36 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:36 AM 12 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: And I want everything painted black, black as night. Satchel paige fastball, the midnight rider Quote
Arlington Posted Tuesday at 03:48 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:48 AM 11 hours ago, chasfh said: Whoa, wait, that's for his whole career? daaaaamn ... I took a gander at those stats and was surprised to see he sucked as a pitcher. I thought he was much better. The batting is interesting. He was getting about 15 ABs a season after the Designated Hitter kicked in. Quote
IdahoBert Posted yesterday at 06:23 PM Posted yesterday at 06:23 PM I don’t really care about the Home Run Derby, so since I have never watched it I had no idea there were only six guys: Ronald Acuña Jr., Cal Raleigh, James Wood, Byron Buxton, Oneil Cruz, and Junior Caminero. Quote
Tenacious D Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 21 hours ago, IdahoBert said: I don’t really care about the Home Run Derby, so since I have never watched it I had no idea there were only six guys: Ronald Acuña Jr., Cal Raleigh, James Wood, Byron Buxton, Oneil Cruz, and Junior Caminero. I’ve been to two in person (US Cellular Field-White Sox and Comerica Park). Way more fun to see in person. For Comerica, I was in LF bleachers when Bobby Abreu went off and hit a bunch there. Even ended up on the tee vee for a brief, shining moment. Quote
Klondike Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 21 hours ago, IdahoBert said: I don’t really care about the Home Run Derby, so since I have never watched it I had no idea there were only six guys: Ronald Acuña Jr., Cal Raleigh, James Wood, Byron Buxton, Oneil Cruz, and Junior Caminero. Aren't those 6 out of a hat of 20 or so that you could pick from and not notice the difference. I mean, there's no Alonso or Bonds or Gambini that you can identify with. Edit. Actually Buxton , Raleigh and Acuna Jr. could be HoF guys but it's hard for me to get into this Home Run Derby like in the past. Edited 3 hours ago by Klondike Quote
Tenacious D Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Klondike said: Aren't those 6 out of a hat of 20 or so that you could pick from and not notice the difference. I mean, there's no Alonso or Bonds or Gambini that you can identify with. Given Riley’s struggle to make contact right now, he’s probably concerned with striking out in the Derby. And, please, Javy, just say “no” if asked. Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: I’ve been to two in person (US Cellular Field-White Sox and Comerica Park). Way more fun to see in person. For Comerica, I was in LF bleachers when Bobby Abreu went off and hit a bunch there. Even ended up on the tee vee for a brief, shining moment. I was at Comerica that night too. LF corner by the foul pole. The new rules are a big turn off for me. Catering to the kids I guess.... Quote
Hongbit Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Klondike said: Aren't those 6 out of a hat of 20 or so that you could pick from and not notice the difference. I mean, there's no Alonso or Bonds or Gambini that you can identify with. Edit. Actually Buxton , Raleigh and Acuna Jr. could be HoF guys but it's hard for me to get into this Home Run Derby like in the past. Don’t sleep on James Wood. He will be the face of MLB in 4 or 5 years when he’s able to leave the Nats and join the Yanks, Mets, or Dodgers. Quote
Tiger337 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Given Riley’s struggle to make contact right now, he’s probably concerned with striking out in the Derby. And, please, Javy, just say “no” if asked. Tork has been hitting pretty well of late and we know that Greene and Tork never hit at the same time. Quote
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