Deleterious Posted Sunday at 08:21 PM Posted Sunday at 08:21 PM 5 minutes ago, NYLion said: He was largely non-existent with scoring in the clutch again and turned the ball over a lot again. Plenty to criticize him about. We're talking about a high bar here, a superstar bar. Brunson was, again, in the clutch while Cade wasn't. He's young, he'll learn to take over when the team needs him in the future hopefully but he doesn't have that in him right now. He got the shot they needed. That shot goes in 50% of the time. Today was the other 50%. It happens. 1 Quote
lordstanley Posted Sunday at 08:51 PM Posted Sunday at 08:51 PM 7 minutes ago, Deleterious said: Doesn't help now. This is like the land acknowledgments that are recited before events in Canada these days. It’s stolen, we are choked up about it, we are not going to do anything about it, but we just wanted you to know that we know. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Sunday at 08:52 PM Posted Sunday at 08:52 PM When did Jim Joyce become an NBA ref? Quote
Hongbit Posted Sunday at 09:33 PM Posted Sunday at 09:33 PM We all know what would’ve happened had the same play occurred but instead was Josh Hart shooting and THJ defending at MSG. 2 Quote
Hart Posted Sunday at 09:38 PM Posted Sunday at 09:38 PM This is the problem with basketball. It has the potential for never ending replays. You could review every call the last two minutes but it would ruin the games for spectators. And the refs are not good enough to get it right the first time around. Quote
Hongbit Posted Sunday at 09:40 PM Posted Sunday at 09:40 PM This is an egregious error that directly impacts the game and the series. David Guthrie and his crew should not be allowed to officiate the playoffs after their assignments are done this round. Will be very telling if the NBA ignores it and allows them to continue on in the playoffs. I expect that not only will they remain but the league will give them a finals game for helping get the result they wanted. 1 Quote
buddha Posted Sunday at 10:44 PM Posted Sunday at 10:44 PM 1 hour ago, lordstanley said: This is like the land acknowledgments that are recited before events in Canada these days. It’s stolen, we are choked up about it, we are not going to do anything about it, but we just wanted you to know that we know. those things are so stupid. how do canadians feel about them? Quote
lordstanley Posted Sunday at 11:32 PM Posted Sunday at 11:32 PM 47 minutes ago, buddha said: those things are so stupid. how do canadians feel about them? More and more that they’re stupid and condescending. Quote
Betrayer Posted Sunday at 11:57 PM Posted Sunday at 11:57 PM 3 hours ago, Deleterious said: Doesn't help now. “Our bad. Enjoy the offseason.” What a joke, but totally on-brand for this series. 1 Quote
Betrayer Posted Monday at 04:16 PM Posted Monday at 04:16 PM (edited) 12 hours ago, Deleterious said: JB's biggest failing this post-season has been limiting Ausar's minutes. This team turned a corner when Ausar was put in the starting lineup in early January and they won all season long by turning defense into offense. They aren't a team that can let you score and match you offense-for-offense in the half-court because they only have 1 All Star. We won Ausar's minutes by 8 points in this game. We made the run in the second half based on defense with Ausar on the court. Overall in the playoffs the Pistons are 13 points better on defense and 1 point better on offense when Ausar's on the floor. This is simple stuff that's apparent whether you're using the eye test or looking at analytics. Edited Monday at 04:17 PM by Betrayer 1 Quote
NYLion Posted Monday at 04:58 PM Posted Monday at 04:58 PM (edited) 17 hours ago, Betrayer said: “Our bad. Enjoy the offseason.” What a joke, but totally on-brand for this series. I don't even know why they need to admit it afterwards, just makes them look worse. "Owning it" after the fact doesn't change anything. With that said, it was a bad non-call but par for the course with the way the game was called so to say one thing in favor of the reffing, at least they were consistent in letting the teams play so the final play was just a continuation of the way the game was called. Bad non-call yes but consistent with the style of reffing in the game which favored the Pistons btw who need to muck it up to have a chance. Edited Monday at 04:59 PM by NYLion Quote
Deleterious Posted Monday at 05:45 PM Posted Monday at 05:45 PM I keep seeing people say it was consistent with how the game was reffed. I don't recall any jump shooters getting bodied like THJ did and it not being called. 1 2 Quote
Betrayer Posted Monday at 05:58 PM Posted Monday at 05:58 PM 11 minutes ago, Deleterious said: I keep seeing people say it was consistent with how the game was reffed. I don't recall any jump shooters getting bodied like THJ did and it not being called. This is exactly it. They let a lot off-ball contact and paint contact go, but not jump shooters getting bodied. Quote
Deleterious Posted Monday at 08:02 PM Posted Monday at 08:02 PM Proof Cade sucks. Can't even beat out a center. Quote
Deleterious Posted Tuesday at 07:34 AM Posted Tuesday at 07:34 AM He talks too much **** for a guy thats on a new team every year. Quote
Betrayer Posted Tuesday at 04:03 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:03 PM Ku bringing in some of the numbers on the Ausar debate: 1 Quote
NYLion Posted Tuesday at 06:13 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:13 PM Ausar is unplayable in the offensive end in crunch time. You can't have 3 on 5 on offense in clutch situations with Duren being the other unplayable guy. It's why I'm struggling to see both as part of a contending core going forward. Quote
buddha Posted Tuesday at 07:42 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:42 PM 1 hour ago, NYLion said: Ausar is unplayable in the offensive end in crunch time. You can't have 3 on 5 on offense in clutch situations with Duren being the other unplayable guy. It's why I'm struggling to see both as part of a contending core going forward. holland too. ausar will need to develop his handle like his brother has in order to stay on the floor. Quote
Betrayer Posted Tuesday at 07:54 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:54 PM 1 hour ago, NYLion said: Ausar is unplayable in the offensive end in crunch time. You can't have 3 on 5 on offense in clutch situations with Duren being the other unplayable guy. It's why I'm struggling to see both as part of a contending core going forward. The numbers don't lie. They're better on offense and way better on defense with him on the court. Why? Because the half-court offense is bad either way so the defensive stops and transition opportunities make a far bigger difference on the offense than that 1 extra average shooter. Also, the stats for Bruson when Ausar is on/off are bonkers. So, you're also making their best player completely inefficient. It's the reason the team magically started playing better when Ausar got healthy and Ivey went down to open up a slot in the starting lineup. This has been true all year. They're a bad half-court offense that becomes a decent offense when Ausar is in the lineup to get stops and give them transition opportunities. Quote
Betrayer Posted Tuesday at 07:55 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:55 PM (edited) 12 minutes ago, buddha said: holland too. ausar will need to develop his handle like his brother has in order to stay on the floor. Amen's handle is a bit better, but their numbers are nearly identical when you make the minutes/possessions match. Difference is Amen has a coach that's playing him 31 mpg. Edited Tuesday at 07:55 PM by Betrayer Quote
Deleterious Posted Tuesday at 08:15 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:15 PM People act like we are taking Steph Curry off the court to put Thompson in. Quote
Deleterious Posted Tuesday at 08:35 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:35 PM I know teams up 3-1 win the series 95% of the time, and I don't expect Detroit to win. But making the Knicks come back to Detroit for one more game would be sweet. Quote
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